When i was trying to get the crud out of the pump, i released the two
spring holders and tried to pull the pump off. It seemed to be stuck,
that's when i just used the needle nose to pull the crap out of it.
I was afraid if i put too much force on it i would ruin it and create
another issue. It does seem to be draining, but i wonder if some of the
impellers in the pump were damaged due to the crud stuck inside.
The pump impeller must have been welded by crud to the end of the motor
When a similar thing happened to me (wife's nylon ped escaped the delicates
bag), the nylon stretched to about 20 times its original length and wrapped
around the impeller drive shaft.
I spent hours unwinding it and cleaning all the crud, got a greasy as a
White Castle hamburger and nicked every knuckle on my hands. I was so proud
of having found the problem, took the machine apart, pulled the
super-elongated footwear out and gotten the whole machine back together.
Despite my heroic efforts, when I got home from work the next day, my wife
had purchased a new Sears unit that was on sale and had the old one hauled
away. I was more than a little peeved but she pointed to a white blouse she
had washed in the machine that now had a big grease stripe on it.
Apparently I didn't wipe the tub down as well as I thought. She told me
that she knew the only way to keep me from chopping it up for parts was to
spirit it away while I was at work.
I think the only thing I ever worked on that was harder to reach was the
power steering pump on an old Jag sedan. After trying to replace it I
reached the conclusion that they began the car's assembly by having someone
hold the steering pump in the air and then assembling the entire rest of the
car around it. Whitworth, SAE and metric screws, too!
The best part is that when the PS pump gasket failed (it was at some
incredibly high PSI - I want to say over 2000, but that may be a total brain
lapse) it spewed power steering fluid all over the always overheated exhaust
manifold, emitting a cloud of smoke that looked like D-Day invasion
My ancient Whirlpool has come up parts NLA (no longer
available) at my parts house. I've kept it running with
oiling the electric motor, and later the water discharge
pump. I've also had to clean the timer with a big dose of
electical contact cleaner, and then reoil the timer. Plans
are to keep it going as long as possible.
I would have thought a seized pump make a hell of a lot of noise like
it did on my old Kenmore. The motor should have had enough torque to
spin the belt around the pump pulley causing a heck of a racket. If
the motor just locked up it likely cycled on its built in
thermal/current overload protection but I would also think it should
trip a breaker if locked up.
This was a direct drive pump. It was not locked up until the end, but
the crud in it put a extra load on the motor. It seemed also the
impellers were flexible inside so they would give some rather than be
rigid. That probably explains why it did not lock up before
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:45:17 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
The ones made since the Carter administration do not have a belt. The
pump is direct drive and the transmission is driven through a plastic
coupler designed to shear off before you break something expensive.
If the contacts were badly pitted, they might not last *that* long before
they fail again (but that's worst-case and you're still extending the
life of the washer for a bit longer*).
I remember taking apart timers as a kid - some of them have a bazillion
switch contacts in them that are all the same design. If you have one
like that then I bet you could swap contacts with good ones that control
a washer program that you never use...
* and by the time it dies next, new front-loaders might be a fair price...
I really did not think this would be a permanent repair. But it buys me
time to maybe find a used timer or other cheaper part.
Somewhere out there is someone who is throwing away a washer with a bad
motor and a good timer,,,
Maybe in the future i will get one of these tosser front loads and try
to restore it to life. I still don't know if i am 100% sold that they
are a long term wise idea.
They work - or at least the ones I grew up with in europe did. Problem in
the US is that they're still expensive compared to identical-featured
models in the rest of the world (why? maybe just because the
manufacturers think that's what people are prepared to pay?), and I'm not
sure the service/spares availability is there quite yet.
Give it a few years though and I think they'll be a good investment...
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