On Jan 25, 11:21 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Maybe some folks prefer a vintage _wine_. Note absence of "h". No
reason to get puckered-up about people not living up to your
At least you'll get much better than you paid for, and you will make
meaningful contribution(s) going forward, won't you?
Your dumping on Ed is an indicator. Sense of humor is a +.
Actually, I'm rather amused by how so many undies got bunched up once I
whined. I'm also impressed by the sense of community in the group. A
direct diagnosis would have been wonderful, of course. Short of that,
a link like Dean posted or even a suggestion like Edwin gave would have
helped initially. All in all, for a first timer on this or any group
list, it's been educational, entertaining and fair warning . . . 'I'll
be back'! Thanks all! Kayle
Welcome to usenet. You have absolutely no guarantees of getting an
answer at all, let alone a quality answer. Considering what you pay for
the service, any reasonable sort would find that perfectly
understandable. Coming here with demands for a particular level of
"customer service" will generally be met with hostility due to the
aforementioned cost of this service.
Free speech and free will reigns supreme here; if someone wants to make
baseless accusations about the sexual preferences of your mother's
uncle's brother's best friend's lemur in response to a perfectly
innocent question, they will. If they want to ignore you completely,
they will. If they want to give you bad advice, they will. If they want
to give you a piece of advice that could kill you, they will. There is
nothing you can do about it. That is how usenet works. Complaining only
brings more stones and arrows. If you're lucky, people will just
"plonk" you, or put you on their ignore list.
On Jan 26, 1:21 am, email@example.com wrote:
Well now. For FREE advice you expect instant answers from experts!
Also, for example; your original post appeared to me just after 2.00 AM
on the 25th. It is now about 3.00 PM on the 26th.
I was busy yesterday, and due to a bad cold/sore throat I didn't feel
like trolling through the several news groups that I normally follow.
In addition while I might feel competent to try fixing my own gas
furnace, if we had one, (being all-electric here) I would not feel
competent to give advice.
So no apologies from here.
If anyone has these appliances that involve combustion, chimneys,
gaseous or liquid fuels it is best to become knowledgeable about at
least analyzing the likely cause of certain problems. The fact that
your furnace (What was it? Wouldn't relight) might be the safest
situation possible until you call a competent repairer. You do have one
lined up for ongoing maintenance and repairs we presume?
And the hits keep coming. Fine, I can take 'em. I'm warm, informed
and dare I say. . .reformed. Nah. And by the way, Terry, my records
show initial post at 10:09pm on the 24th with first response at 2:45am
on the 26th. Apparently that's reasonable here. Sheesh, I ACCEPT that,
ok. Happy trolls to you!
Many, perhaps most, ISPs no longer have newsfeeds, or if they do, they do
not particularly advertise that fact to their new clients. Web sites and
blogs and such have made Usenet a dying world (other than the porn groups,
of course.) I'd bet most Google Groups users think Google owns and runs the
newsgroups, sorta like a gigantic BBS.
My ISP is Qwest. Before when it was USWest I had Outlook Express, I
think. As my ISP's kept changing fairly often, and I was using so
many other computers away from home, I found a Yahoo account to be
easiest. When I was searching for furnace info I Googled it and this
list came up. And, you're right, I did think Google ran it, or I
should say, I hadn't even thought about it until your comment. Since
this is my first experience with a group list, I have no grounds for
comparison like Eric apparently does. Sad to say but I'm not even sure
how to access this group except through Google.
You may want to look into this, it tell you how to configure OE or Netscape
I like using OE for a newsreader, I have Thunderbird also, but am used to
OE and really like it, except for a couple flaws.
Laziness I guess, I have Verizon, and they have a news server, but it
is hell to get it to hook up the first time. once initiated, it works.
The previous interface was great, instant access, since Google
personalized is my home page, just click more and groups and it when
right back to where I was, great stuff. They have since gone to a
bubble gum interface, much more ad friendly than read / post friendly.
I use T-bird for Email, I may try that.
In my case, I use Google Groups by choice. I have OE and another
excellent reader. I prefer Google as it is _simple_. I don't need,
and wouldn't use, all the bells and whistles that ocme with a real
I, too, hated the new google when it showed up the other day. I am
getting used to it and exept for the clunky posting (that will
probably be fixed) and that 1/3 of a page to the right that contains
nothing that needs to be there 100% of the time it isn't any worse
than the old one. Restricting the text portion to only 1/3 of the
page was stupid. Of course one can keep closing and opening message
tree but that is a nuisance.
I can pretty well ignore the bubble gum, adblock takes care of the
ads, but have you opened a post with fewer than 3 replies? They end up
in a tiny scroll box at the top of that 1/3 page leaving the rest of
the real estate blank as you scroll through the message trying to make
sense of it. Laziness may keep me in GG as most newsreaders while more
versatile, require much more interaction. I am open to suggestion
On 25 Jan 2007 20:21:41 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Yeah, it's a strange and busy group. Sometimes I get no responses or
an answer like "Google it." Then I post a question thinking I'd get
no responses, and get a dozen or so. Best to wait 48 hours though.
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