With hurricane Irene coming, I did not want to take a chance with a
wet basement if my power goes out. My sump pump saved me from the last
heavy rain, so I know this time it will be worse. I did not want to
get a generator right now because I wanted something big and not
cheesy and of course thats going to cost some money, but my main
concern was the basement. So I picked up one of these from Lowes for
I tested it in my swimming pool, and it seems like it worked great
disharging the water.
Right now I'm in the process of re-plumbing the existing sump pump to
attach this one to it.
My question is, has anyone used one of these and how has it gone so
Seems pretty high price to me too. As you say, for that
price you're in the range where a generator starts to look
good because it can power the fridge, lights, etc too.
I've seen others for about half that amount, but don't
know how they compare on features, specs, durability.
Given the time constraints I'm facing with the Hurricane coming
Sunday, I really did not shop around, but in any event, my primary
pump is 1/2 HP, and if I remember the specs said it uses 10 amps. So
I'm not sure if a generator in that price range would supply power to
a sump pump and a few other things.
I did see some 8,000+ watt generators at Lowes and HD, but it was a
little pricey. Plus I'm not sure where I would store one of those
beasts. I really don't have a lot of room in my garage as it is.
The power does not go out here a lot, but this time its a different
I'll bet it's more like half that in amps. And even if it did take 10
amps, you can get a generator that would run it for $200.
Agree, there are other factors to consider. The thing that
would most point me toward a generator would be that
it can also be used to run the refrigerator, lights, etc.
Fortunately while I have a basement, it's bone dry and I
don't even have a sump pump. I did consult with a friend
who has a new house and he doesn't have a sump pump
either. But, he does occasionally have a small amount of
water in the bottom of the sump pit. So, I recommended
he go out and get a battery operated one. He has a spare
battery already sitting around. And if need be, can also
hook it up to his SUV if needed.
Put the generator in something that looks like a doghouse. Generators should
always be chained to something immovable, lest the thieves make off with
Generators should always be run outdoors. Don't worry about the rain, etc.,
generators are designed to operate in inclement weather.
As to the generator supplying power, you can alternate what the generator
supplies. Run the sump pump for a while, and, while the sump is filling back
up, power the fridge. A few lights shouldn't make any difference one way or
You can also get a much smaller pump, just for emergency use, and power it
by a scaled-down generator or even an invertor run from your car's
You're right about hurricanes presenting a different kettle of fish; Three
years ago, according to AccuWeather, hurricane Yikes caused 7.5 million
power outages. Some 2 million in the Houston area were without power for a
Hint: It takes power to run the pumps at the gas station. Stock up on
gasoline BEFORE the storm - you can always pour the left-over in your car's
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I looked at them.
Not much capacity (GPH), and they waste water.
Also need (some) a 1" dedicated feed to work to spec.
A generator, even a cheap one, is a better bet.
Having recently suffered a deluge that flooded basements here,
including mine, my advice is to remove anything you can from the
basement if a hurricane is coming.
If the ground gets saturated and there's standing water outside, even
the typical electric sump pump won't prevent flooding.
I had 2 pumps going and they didn't make a dent that I could see.
I decided my choices for surely dealing with the rare deluge is buy
and maintain a 10hp gasoline pump, or avoid keeping anything in the
basement that I don't want to lose.
Taking the second option.
Mike, if you're tying that pump to an existing pump discharge with a
Y, don't forget to put a check valve on each pump's discharge.
Otherwise if only one pump is running it will just discharge back
through the non-running pump and back into the sump.
Yes! It seems counterintuitive to ADD more water to remove the existing
Neither did my two little pumps. Now I have five. (-:
I took both options, sort of. This year, I decided to tackle the problem of
the 100 year floods that seemed to be coming about every seven years. The
first thing was to figure out what the various holes, drains, sumps, pumps
and french drains were doing in the house. I put a garden hose into a small
opening near the floor drain in the basement to see if that water would
reach the sump pit at the base of the outside basement stairs. It never
did, but the basement stayed damp for weeks after that ill-advised test.
Near as I can tell, that hole in the floor goes into a gravel bed under the
foundation which allowed me to pump a lot of water in, but as you can
imagine, very little of it out.
After that, I got two 300GPH pumps (AC and DC 12V) with hoses that could fit
into the small hole where the water went in (but never came out). I also
bought a pump to sit over the floor drain (a 3HP pump with a 2" output hose
that can move some serious water) and two more sump pumps (battery and AC)
for the outside sump. Then I used cinderblocks to move everything up off
the floor at least 12 inches, with the more valuable stuff stored higher up.
I've got 80AH worth of batteries to supply the DC powered pumps and a system
to recharge them from the car if they need to be on battery power for more
than 12 hours. I've even got a venturi operated garden hose pump if all
On the day we had 12" of rain (you read right!) the outside stairwell filled
up so quickly from the street runoff that only a ship's bilge pump could
remove. I made the basement door as watertight as I could and installed the
two sump pumps after regrading the yard to prevent that nasty problem from
recurring. We'll see.
Of course, I'll probably never see another flood while I live here because I
am so overprepared.
Well, I finished plumbing everything in last night. It turned out
nice. Hopefully I won't have to use it, but I have it ready to go just
Good luck to everyone in the storms path. I hope nothing serious
happens to anyone.
I am feeding this pump from my washing machine valve. It is fed by
3/4" pipe. I purchased a 50 foot 5/8" hose to hook it up. I really
need only 25 feet but they did not have that size hose at any of the
If I shorten the hose to 25 feet, or even less, would I minimize
That price is too big a chunk of a generator's price for my taste.
I've had a "cheesy" $500 4400 watt generator for 15 years now. Since
all I do with it is run it when the power is out it's still fine.
Looks just like the day I bought it. Lives in my shed.
That one looks very similar to one I purchased about 12 years ago for just
over $100.00. I thought it was over priced at that for what you got. It was
flimsy, and the float controlled water valve was very flimsy, it sat in the
OFF position for about 6 months and when it was needed it wouldn't turn ON
to drain the water. I had to manually play with it and add an elastic band
to provide more spring strength.
I pulled it out and trashed it as a loss. Bought a "BasePump" brand, mail
order from Buffalo, NY. Heavy duty, robust water valve, and pumps lots of
water. They claim 3 gallons for every gallon of water consumed. It has cut
in when power failed three times during a bad storm where there was lots of
water. My sump flows heavily during spring and storms, the BasePump kept up
with easily. I need backup as all my tools are in the basement along with my
grown son's office with several computers.
Check your local water distribution system. If water is supplied to your
house by a pump, you won't have a water supply in case of a wide-spread
power outage. If your supply is gravity-fed (the majority) you should be
fine. For a while.
Eventually the water tower will run out of water.
Just wanted to update, its been raining heavy now here in NY, and my
pit is slowly starting to fill up. So I decided to test the pump, and
it works great. So now at least I can sleep easy tonight. Hopefully
the power will stay on.
For what its worth back in 1989 during hurricane Hugo my friend at
work needed a water powered pump. None being available he improvised
with what he could still find at the stores using a replacement jet
from a jet pump and a float valve for a livestock watering tank. As of
this past Friday night he was still using it.
After having no power for 5 days, The power finally came back tonight,
so now I can comment on what I've experienced.
It started to rain heavy as Irene approached and every hour or so I
was looking at the pit to see how much it was filling up. Then at
1:00AM, I lost power, and I was like "OK, here we go". So now I am
staying up all night watching the pit get filled more and more with
water. Then , the back-up pump kicked on, and took out water from the
pit with no problem, and continued to do so for another day and a
half , then the water subsided. My basement never got wet. I'm a
believer. This thing works.
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