I was really pissed today. I have a 2000 Chevy S10 pick up. I rarely
use it and ity only has 35k miles on it. Any way after a period of non
use (about 3 months) I turned the engine on this morning and got red
light flashing on the dash saying Check Engine for Service. Now
accordingf to the maintenance book I have the only service this vehicle
needs now is oil changes, air filter and pvc valve changes, The light
COULD be indicative of the onboard computer reporting something more
serious with the engine. So I took the truck on down to the Chevy
dealer today to have them check it out. 6 hour later I went back to
pick up the truck and was nothing wrong with the truck, just a stuck
wiring, which they unstuck and for a diagnostic check on the computer
charged me 69 dollars for. fuckin' computers.........!!!
Too bad you didn't know this before now, but at least you will the next time:
most of the major chain auto parts stores (AutoZone, Advance Auto, O'Reilly,
etc) will read the "Check Engine" codes for you for FREE. Of course, then you
get to fix the problem, too...
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
did you tell them you like to be kissed when you get fucked
| >>I was really pissed today. I have a 2000 Chevy S10 pick up. I rarely
| >>use it and ity only has 35k miles on it. Any way after a period of
| >>use (about 3 months) I turned the engine on this morning and got
| >>light flashing on the dash saying Check Engine for Service. Now
| >>accordingf to the maintenance book I have the only service this
| >>needs now is oil changes, air filter and pvc valve changes, The
| >>COULD be indicative of the onboard computer reporting something more
| >>serious with the engine. So I took the truck on down to the Chevy
| >>dealer today to have them check it out. 6 hour later I went back to
| >>pick up the truck and was nothing wrong with the truck, just a stuck
| >>wiring, which they unstuck and for a diagnostic check on the
| >>charged me 69 dollars for. fuckin' computers.........!!!
| > Too bad you didn't know this before now, but at least you will the
| > most of the major chain auto parts stores (AutoZone, Advance Auto,
| > etc) will read the "Check Engine" codes for you for FREE. Of course,
| > get to fix the problem, too...
| My mechanic doesn't charge for checking computer.
- Most of the major chain auto parts stores (AutoZone, Advance Auto,
O'Reilly, etc) will read the "Check Engine"
- codes for you for FREE.
Unfortunately, you've worded that correctly. They will *read* the
codes for free. AFAIK, they are no longer allowed to reset them. At
least that's what the AutoZone's near me have told me. Maybe it's just
that chain's policy....I haven't had to check a code since I donated
my 97 Dodge. My Dodge would annoyingly report a 6th cylinder misfire
after long (150+ miles) trips, so I would take it in every now and
then to have the light reset. (No other symptoms, just the light)
Sometime last year I was told they couldn't reset the light anymore,
they could only tell people what was the code read.
I recently bought an 04 Honda and got their equivalent of the Check
Engine Light at 24K, but it was just for the scheduled maintenance.
How do I know? The owner's manual tells you how to reset the light via
some buttons on the dashboard. So when the light comes on at the
milage intervals listed in the book, I can reset it. If it doesn't
come back on due a persistant fault, then it was just for the
Before you ask, I should mention that my idea of when to change the
oil, rotate the rubber, and do the other items on the maintenance
chart is usually sooner than what the book calls for, so I'm doing the
things the light tells me to do, I'm just doing it on my own schedule.
Since the early 60's I've never gotten rid of car with less than 150K,
so I think my schedule has worked pretty good.
On Jan 27, 5:40 am, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller) wrote:
Or, you could just be happy that it wasn't a big deal and that you're
if you wanna say that 'back in the day' engines were simpler so you
could figure anything out yourself, that's true...but they all got
2/3rds (or less) of the gas mileage that we get now per cubic inch of
displacement (ya, that's 2/3rds the efficiency for anyone who's
counting) and they polluted a lot more... don't know how much, but
I'm certain it's true.
If you don't like having to use a computer, then go buy a 60's
volkswagon bug and drive it around, it gets the same mileage as a
modern toyota corolla but pollutes more and has no features, like
motorized windshield wipers, that come standard on the corolla.
Ya, muscle cars are great...but I wouldn't drive one to work
everyday...besides, there have been so many other technological
advances since the days of carburators that I really don't think the
maintenance schedule allows for what we do to our cars now. 6000
miles between recommended oil changes, 100,000 miles for spark plugs
and wires, differentials that last the life of the car without any
Sure they were built out of metal back then and were "tougher" cars.
I don't see any of them on the streets in my neck of the
woods...except for the ones restored and hot rodded.
This now seems the norm with american car manufacturers-dealers, that
they will get you at both ends, when they sell you the vehicle, and then
when it needs service-parts.
Next time this happens my friend, disconnect your Battery for 20-30
seconds, and then reconnect. This normally will clear the computer, and
the "Service Engine Soon" Light, and all you'll have to do after that is
re-set your clock.
Most likely what happened that after sitting so long, there was a slight
misfire, or slightly running rough upon start-up, and the Computer saw
this as a problem. It has happened to me. After sitting too, the gas
starts getting a little crappy. Throw some fresh gas, and try to drive
it more often, even if it's just for a few miles every week. Hope this
Thats a great solution, up there with putting a sticker over the light so
you don't see it.
The light is on for a reason. It might not be an important reason (mine
comes on every 500-1000 miles because the gas cap isn't tight enough) but a
But it is also true that it could have come on for a condition that existed only
temporarily and on some cars the light will not go back off even if the original
reason it came on no longer exists. If there is a "real and persistent" reason
for it to be on then resetting it will be temporary and it will come back on
Yep, mine will do that too. The "check engine" light will come on due
to an emissions problem. As it turns out the gas cap is a little
loose. Tighten the cap and within a day or two the light will go out.
You should get it checked out. I ignored my light for about 1 month. Then
I got it checked and found out the transmission was "shot". I had to get a
new one. The prior owner did something with the tranny. The dealer was
pissed off because I had an extended warranty and got the new one for free.
Really depends on where you are. In some states, there are laws that warranty
work must be paid at the same rate as "over the counter" repairs. In any event,
warantee work is a major revenue stream for car dealers even at reduced rates.
It's not anywhere near "break even". I worked for a company that's business was
almost exclusively warranty repairs for consumer electronics. They made lots of
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