I'm trying to determine which company has the better, more effective termite
baiting system (and ultimately elimination of the colony).
The Sentricon system, licensed by various pest control companies also uses
these round baiting stations placed every 10 feet or so around the outside
of the house foundation. Sentricon is made/licensed by Dow AgroSciences so
I assume the bait/poison is made/trademarked by Dow. Each 'station' is
monitored electronically monthly (or quarterly?) The system is warranted to
'eliminate' the colony, not just kill the few termites that come into
contact with the bait and reduce the colony. The system is installed and
monitored for 2 years.
Terminix has what seems to be their own system which looks amazingly like
the Sentricon baiting system. They use similar (to the Sentricon system)
round soil baiting stations placed every 10 feet or so around the outside
house perimeter. The price is similar to the Sentricon system and is
monitored for 2 years.
Not sure about the bait/poison in the Terminix system. It must do something
very similar to the Sentricon bait/poison.
Any ideas on what/how the Terminix system works and if it is as good as the
I don't know for sure, but I've always figured that Terminix was just
reselling the Dow system.
If they don't supply any information at all on the pesticide, I'd do a
search for MSDS information on the system--I'd think they would have had
to file. Many times that will give you the glimpse at the wizard behind
the screen you're not supposed to see... :)
Turns out they're not, apparently ... A (very quick) google turned up
this fwiw...I presume it's reasonably accurate, but I'd surely want to
do some more followup.
It does seem to indicate Terminix isn't using Dow Sentricon, though...
Crossposted to alt.consumers.pest-control.
I didn't have enough experience with baiting to make any sort of
I sold Sentricon, but the concept of luring termites from one food
source to another as an effective means of control never made sense to
With proper direction, resources, dedication... diligence... one day
you may eventually arrive at the conclusion that they have to be lured
(well, I suppose it could be marketed as "pure chance while foraging")
from one food source to the poisoned food source in order for that to
Subterranean termite colonies "randomly forage ' .
Areas close to water sources and or old dead trees have a better chance of
A lot of systems 'look' like Sentricon .
I am sure a label of the termite poison would clear up the issue .
We have a rental property that had a LOT of termite damage. I did the
poison thing and the Borate thing around the perimeter and wherever I could
get to wood. I even drilled some holes in the concrete block. I just
used stuff I picked up from the Big Box store (Lowe's).
THEN we got a Terminex Bait system. They (the bugs) definitely found the
bait. IAW the directions, when I got a "hit" I would install another bait
It's didn't take much damage to the bait to make the bait stick "pop" so I
ended up breaking off the "popper" and putting the bait back and inspecting
it more often. In a period of about 3 month, several baits were nearly
completely consumed and were replaced. Lately, I haven't seen any baits
consumed and no fresh "pops" so I have to ASSume that the colonies were
Some of the baits "poped" just because there was excessive water and the
little locking ring that held the "popper" down rusted away on one or two
and water damaged the central piece of paper until it failed and the bait
"popped." The bait hadn't been touched but the water coroding the ring and
damaging the paper.made it pop.
I would say the systems "works." The auger they give you for making the
holes is pretty crappy but we have a lot of rocks in our soil. The
directions say not touse in in "wet" conditions but if you have wet soil,
you have to make some compromises.
You dig a trench around your house, some inches deep. You put in the
It kills the colony in three months or less. 100%. No execptions have been
found. Lasts for many years.
You can get the stuff on Ebay (be prepared for sticker-shock - about
Check the longevity of the chemical closely. This is the key.
I use Orkin here. The terminex stuff lasts at best a year and the franchise
in my local area is not reliable. (This is not a total slam on terminex as
i gather in some areas they are quite good and even in our area they are
better than Orkin with some types of pests, just not termites).
I have had several 'treatments' done in the past 10 years. One was by
terminex only 4 years ago and came back to the USA to find live termites
eating out a baseboard. I got the orkin contract and am covered for all
damage now after an extensive inspection to determine how much damage we
already had (thank the lord, just the basebord!). Yes, it costs money but
we are paying off treatment for an active infestation. Once that drops off,
we need only pay about 200$ a year for what is basically insurance coverage
for any damages and quarterly inspections. When the chemicals start to
fail, they reseed for free.
Terminix nationally doesn't exactly have a great track record in terms of
running an honest business. Plenty of people have had their houses munched
by termites when the mixture of powdered milk and water Terminix used to
spray around their houses didn't turn out to be all that effective <g>.
Check with your state's attorney general office or department of agriculture
before you do business with them.
Or just Google.
Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
pissed off enough to actually file suit.
Among many "real" professional Pest Control Operators they're both
considered a blight on the industry (which is not to say that neither
has a small percentage of true "professionals").
It's a tough business in which to compete when the homeowner has
difficulty determining who is a shyster and who is not.
That's easily explained simply by the fact the two are by far the
largest companies in the field: simply more opportunities.
As a secondary cause, most local companies won't make anything more than
local news even if they are no better in service or follow up or
warranty work than the national firms in their area so google results
will be grossly distorted by that as well.
Of course, but that explanation is a little too simple.
Or, they settle up and/or satisfy their clients.
A large national with oodles of advertising budget can write off
clients assuming they will simply usually swap dissatisfied clients
with the "other" national company.
(This is a common technique known and employed employed by fast food
restaurants. Sure their dining room is filthy, and their service is
slow, but they all (generally) are. If you don't come back to BK,
someone will abandon Wendy's on the same premise.)
IME with termites, many homeowners tried both national companies
before I got the call. Most, as in way more than half, had no
evidence of termites.
Evaluated individually as wholes, both companies consist of a great
No simpler than your previous statement (as presented)...
But they simply won't show up on google in any profusion because there
are a comparatively miniscule number of searchers for any local company
regardless of how bad they might be.
Hence, it is an erroneous conclusion that because the two major
companies have the bulk of the complaints on a google search the others
are _necessarily_ better.
It's simply a misuse of the statistics.
Agreed, but I would point to their use of "contracts" as evidence they
are less inclined to satisfy their clients, and their unnecessary
service intervals as evidence they are better at generating income
than performing effective services.
But, they made me a ton o' money...
That's the only point I was making...
Nothing else is derivable from the data posited.
I'm not attacking you or any other local exterminator nor defending the
Big Two; simply pointing out to draw a conclusion you wished others to
make from your previous post is simply not warranted.
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