Smart Meters

My guess is that he is talking about a judge that ruled, a couple of days ago, that the NSA is breaking the Constitutional rights of American citizens (4th Amendment) by monitoring domestic communication without a warrant.

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Irreverent Maximus
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You are talking about Canada, ya know. They lost a good part of their grid, and punked some of the Northeastern grid, because of a solar flare. Meanwhile, the rest of the world laughed. :-)

With modern controls it is rather easy to manage such a situation. Though, if there has not been an upgrade in 30 plus years... Anyway, even 40 year old technology can handle the situation if implemented correctly.

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Irreverent Maximus

But on the other hand a Texas court ruled warrants can be based on a "prediction of a future crime". Article here:

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Dean Hoffman

Isn't that grand? Sounds like the states that may search your vehicle anytime that they want. May I search your vehicle? No? *phone call* Sir, please step away from the vehicle, I have a warrant...

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Irreverent Maximus

I can't wait for hackers to be discovered to have been screwing with the smart meter mesh network for a long time. I can think of all sorts of ways to hack the network such as a secure form of communications for patriots avoiding the secret police wiretaps on internet, cellphone and land lines. It's entertaining to be living in interesting times. ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

don't be confusing krwd with current events and facts

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

one would assume that turning the spigot down on the hydro plants would have the effect of throttling the output and saving the water for later high demands...of course if OH is no longer using hydropower, they'd have to have other management tools

not to mention that if they can't schedule production based on what they knew would be a known drop in consumption, they need to offshore their management

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

and you're a damned fool. period.

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

Gee, Malformed, what made you think I was talking about you? Maybe you really do know that you're stupid.

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krw

Maybe but that's not stopping anything. It's still happening and will continue to.

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krw

That headline is *very* misleading. They were breaking the law. The only issue I has with it is that they received the warrant *after* the search. They're supposed to identify what they're looking for (probably cause) *before* they search.

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krw

No, "I'll mail you a copy of the warrant when I get a chance."

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krw

You really don't have to prove how stupid you are, Malformed. We got it!

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krw

I've heard of water being pumped back up hill for energy storage. Of course that energy was probably from another source that could not conserve it or cost more to throttle back.

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Frank

You mean this Ontario Hydro power company?:

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3_28_2012_EarthHour.pdf

"Hydro one is not afraid of the dark this earth hour..."

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Hydro One encourages customers to power down for conservation this Earth Ho ur

TORONTO, March 20, 2013 /CNW/ - Last year, Hydro One customers saved enoug h energy to power the city of Belleville during Earth Hour. This year, Hydr o One is urging its customers to save even more than the 202 MW saved last year by turning off lights and unplugging unnecessary appliances on March 2

3 from 8:30 - 9:30 p.m. Hydro One customers will join millions of people wo rldwide in conserving energy in support of Earth Hour.

Or this power company?:

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Innisfil Wish Event 2012 Innisfil, ON (April 3, 2012) ? Innisfil met the Earth Hour challenge with great success. A 13.93% (4983.91 kWh) energy savings was calculated by Inn isfil Hydro for the 8:30-9:30 pm timeframe on Saturday, March 31, 2012. Thi s was the largest energy savings Innisfil has reached in six years of parti cipating in Earth Hour.

If you have sources for what you claim, we'd like to see them. Following that logic, the power company should have to be dumping electricity everyday at 3AM or paying people to take it, when demand is lower than it is at noon.

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trader4

as will shootings in schools...I guess we should be thankful for things that don't change

Reply to
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

On 12/18/2013 12:47 PM, EXT wrote: ...

Sheer nonsense (on both counts). You don't have to shut it off; unless it was a _very_ small utility with a very large fraction of participants that made a difference in demand on their grid of more than the combined runback capacity of all generation on the grid, they've no real problem at all.

Certainly anybody as large as OH and with a high fraction of hydro that is about the most flexible there is wouldn't have much problem at all.

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dpb

On 12/19/2013 1:56 PM, Frank wrote: ...

Yes, even hydro isn't 100%. There's no benefit in trying to generate the power for your own pumped storage; it loses.

There are pumped storage peaking units which use off-peak generation for the purpose to be able to provide peak capacity later. Smith Mountain Dam hydro unit in VA was built for the purpose; I've not looked to see whether they're still using it that way or not since have been gone 30 yr or so now...

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dpb

Probably. You lefties are so damned dumb you *want* children to be helpless so you can dance on their graves when bad things happen to them.

No one is *ever* thankful for you, Malformed.

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krw

doesn't matter who you were talking to, you're still a damned fool

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Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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