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Hi,
I had a general contractor tile a wall in my bathroom and I'm not sure whether it's me or the tiles are too crooked. You can find pictures here:
http://i.math.drexel.edu/~pg/wall.jpg
http://i.math.drexel.edu/~pg/cubby.jpg
Thank you very much!
(PS: If I am right and it really is bad, please use nice language because will try to use your messages to argue my case without getting anyone's blood pressure up.)
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Its not perfect but I have seen worse. How much was the job in comparison to the other bids?
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snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:

I've seen better, too -- in fact, I've *done* better, and I'm not a tiler. This looks to me like it was done by someone with fairly little experience.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

The "cubby" doesn't look great - poor choice of tile for that, IMO. If part of a tile can be cut out, it might look better with a border tile around it and across the face of the shelf. Marble tile? All uniform size?
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Looks kinda sloppy to me. I'd ask for a partial refund.
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On 15 Sep 2006 12:17:06 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

It looks to me like the tiles themselves are moderately coarse edged, but that might be the grout. Have you got any un-attached tiles to compare?
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I would be pissed off if I had done as poorly on my home. What's with the cut tiles switching sides in the cubby. Ugly!!
Bob
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wrote:

Looks like the guy started one way and changed direction. I do not like the cubby at all...to busy, not visually appealing by any stretch. Perhaps another size tile or something. -- Oren
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My first do-it-yourself project looked better than that.
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The misalignment in the wall picture could be forgiven due to different tile size, but the cubby is simply atrocious! No tiler with an ounce of skill or experience would do a job that awful. Grout lines should line up throughout the entire project, cubbies included. Horizontal and vertical.
I hope you got this guy's license, and I hope you didn't make the final payment on the job yet.
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:53:17 -0700, Frank Warner

You have an eye for detail. I wonder if the horizontal shelves pitch in such a way as to pool water, thus affecting grout before it's time. -- Oren
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Tell me you didn't pick this guy up at the Home Depot parking lot???
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

The work is pretty shaky. It looks like the tiler was figuring things out as they went along. Did the general contractor do the work himself, with his workers or did he sub it out?
Your first picture has some distortion from the lens so it's tough to tell how bad the crooked tile joints are. You can see they do wander around a bit, but the curve to the horizontal joint lines came from the picture I think.
The cubby is rather painful. The layout of the tile is extremely poor as others have pointed out. The inside corners of the cubby should be caulked as framing shrinkage and other movement between wall surfaces usually cause the grout to crack and chip out over time which leads to those slow leaks that you are never aware of until they get really bad.
The tiler could have saved themselves a lot of effort by using a piece of granite for the intermediate shelf in the cubby. There's no reason to have 9 pieces of tile, backer board pieces and the wood framing when one piece of stone would replace the lot and be easier to clean.
With such a shaky job on tile layout it makes me wonder what the tiler knows about waterproofing, minimizing water in the grout during mixing and cleanup and other factors that can compromise the tile job.
R
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I just did my first tiling - a whole bathroom renovation!
I can tell you if those tiles aren't recycled, or have crooked edges, that this job is below (a certain) DIYer's standards.
The only complications with worrying about it, are that removing & re-tiling will cost you a hellavalot. The tiler has actually done the job, maybe not so well, but it is really your problem now I think.
Did you pick a tiler based on price, or recommendation? - Big difference!

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He could take a lot of detailed pics and take this person to small claims court. That is, if the guy doesn't pony up some sort of partial job refund. Sure, he did the job, but it seems that there should be a reasonable expectation that the contractor will at least do an AVERAGE job on the work. Of course, whether or not he wins the case would depend on the Judge. This wouldn't be a clear cut slam dunk case; could go either way.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

That job is f'ed up worse than a bent hoola hoop.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

In my opinion, that job is terrible.
First, the cubby...
The tiles should have been centered, with two cut tiles, one on each side of a whole tile in the center. Not two whole tiles, and a half. More like one whole tile and two "three-quarter" tiles.
Second, the wall.
Since I can't see the whole wall, I will just say that the edge of the tile should be aligned going up one column, all the way. You should be able to take a long straight edge (i.e. level) and place it along the edge of ONE tile, and that should line up with the edge of ALL the tiles in that column. It doesn't look like that from your picture. Further, if using a level, the column should be plumb, from top to bottom. If the corners are of similar nature to the cubby, the field should have been split, and started from the center out. That would also avoid the out of plumb caused (I suspect) from starting at a corner which was itself not perfectly plumb.
I would ask for a full refund, as it will cost a lot more to take it down and do it right...
Husky
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Husky wrote:

Makes my head hurt just looking at it.....I'd hate to step into that shower every morning
If the shampoos box & shower were layed out better...the uneven grout lines would be tolerable but......
taken in total.....very painful to look at
good luck
cheers Bob
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Whoa! Who picked that grout color?
An amateurish job.
Steve
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in

It OK as long as you didn't pay the sober rate.
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