Close family member.... good-hearted, generous person but increasingly
lacking critical-thinking skills.
This person keeps giving money to organizations that mail donation
From the outside, it looks to me like there are one or more central
databases of information about people who respond to donation request
mailings: somebody responds to a mailing, and the database is updated.
Seems like whenever somebody responds to one of those mailings where,
for instance, they include a dollar bill their profile gets updated with
the fact that they respond to that particular button push....and
Lately there has been a flood of those fake "Prize Notification"
mailings where the aim seems to be to verify that the recipient is
willing to perform a certain series of actions in the process of
Bottom Line: we are getting huge amounts of charity solicitations...
more with every passing month.... So many that legitimate mail is in
danger of getting lost and this person spends hours and hours opening
this crap... and sending out their hard-earned cash to a mixture of
legitimate charities and borderline criminals.... increasingly (and
mostly), IMHO, the latter.
I have tried being the first one to the mailbox and pulling this stuff
out before they see it, but have gotten caught one too many times - so
that is no longer an option.
The Question: Can anybody recommend techniques for dealing with this?
First thing I think of is writing "Deceased" on some of this stuff and
hoping it gets returned to sender - but I'm thinking whatever central
database there is would catch on as soon as there was a subsequent reply
from the same person.
Beyond that, I'm at a loss.
And, as you've discovered, that "earns" you more such "offers"
I think many charities actually sell their donor lists. Yet another
way to "make a buck".
Wouldn't *you* do that? Rather than looking to find a donation
from a "cold" (potential) donor, you want, instead, to try someone
who has demonstrated a willingness to donate in the past!
E.g., I "donate" ~500 hours annually to "charitable causes"
(must be a 501(c)3 but that's just my own personal criterion).
And, am frequently asked by people associated with the "cause du
jour" whether I'd like to donate some of my time to *their* (other)
cause. In their minds, this is more likely to get a desireable
outcome than approaching someone on the street! Or, paying for an
Move your *real* mail (bills, statements, etc.) to a POBox. Treat
(almost) everything that comes to the house as garbage -- especially if
it says "Urgent".
Make those donations that you want to make by using cashier's checks
or money orders. You can fully specify the recipient (so it can't be
diverted as CASH) yet keep your name and address off of it. And,
you have a receipt for the tax man (if important).
You risk some other agency deciding you are deceased.
Another approach (but more for feel-good effect than verifiable
result) is to draft a form letter that you include in any business
reply envelopes. Something along the lines of:
"We appreciate your need. However, due to the volume of
solicitations, we've decided to restrict our donations
to a select few charities. You may continue to solicit
offers from us but this will just result in continued
mailing costs on your part. If you think that is a good
way to spend the funds donated by your other donors, we'll
be sure to share that information with other friends and
associates so they understand where any monies they donate
to you will end up (being wasted)."
Just ride it out and cut off any identifiable outgoing donations.
I.e., don't return any funds in ANY envelopes or accompanied by any
materials that they've sent you -- as these can easily be "traced"
to a particular outgoing mailing (i.e., *you*)
Sad, but they're practices have EARNED them this sort of treatment.
On 07/03/2016 03:19 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
When my father died, I had his mail sent to my address. Most of the junk
mail stopped after a couple of years, but some (all political orgs
wanting money) continued for more than 10 years. I tried returning the
reply cards marked "Deceased" but this seemed to have NO effect.
if any of the mail comes with a postage paid return card............
attach the card to a box of bricks, and mail it back. the receiver will have to pay the postage. send along a do not send more mail to this adfdress ever again...
i actually knew the president of a company who sent out those postage paid return envelopes...
he had to pay and the heavier the better
On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 6:31:36 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
mail a brick. might cost them 5 or 10 bucks. and why not identify yourself, attach a note, the next one will be a concrete block
its not worth them suing for such a small amount of money, but they will remove you from all future solicitation mail:)
i donated money to the carnegie science center. almost immediately i got begging requests from every other pittsbrgh organization.
i called the carnegie and they confirmed they share the lists.
i said you should ask first for permission.
so i mailed out 10 or so bricks with my name and address,. including one to the carnegie science center
never heard from any of them again, and its a long time ago, perhaps over 20 years
If problem got that bad, I might do something like that.
Most junk is easy to identify and gets tossed unopened.
Some are a PITA. I have a FIOS land line from Verizon and they are
always hounding me to extend service. Have almost tossed the telephone
bill but they print on envelope that it contains bill, otherwise rest of
stuff from them gets tossed.
you send back never gets to the originator. See:
Somewhat on topic, what annoys me more is that the charities I do
support tend to send me repeated requests for donations every month or
so. I think twice a year should be sufficient, don't you?
I would agree - but add that those few additional solicitations from the
charity I donate to pale in comparison to their making my name available
to the rest of the charity world... it's like they have a centralized
Sucker List and I get promoted every time I contribute to somebody.
I first noticed it when I made a donation to Amnesty International many
years ago.... it was like I became a piece of meat hung out for the rest
to feed upon.
that must have cost him a bundle. Where I might get Nigerian email
scams he gets snail scam mail from Europe.
Today's world is annoying with everyone constantly seeking attention.
A recent letter to the editor said they would vote for president anyone
that promised to rid them of telemarketers.
Local paper has paste on stickers that must be removed from front page.
You often have to throw away the half front page that are just ads.
MS removed free game from Win 10 to give them back at ap store for free
but with annoying dunnage to join x-box or pay to remove ads.
On Sunday, July 3, 2016 at 3:19:55 PM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
and addresses to direct marketing companies. Log onto your
banks website and head over to their terms of services/privacy
notifications. You can change your preference for your
information not to be made available to direct marketers. It
won't take too long and you'll find your junk mail shrinking
quite a bit.
I do agree with those who have recommended using their included
postage paid envelope and sending their junk mail back to them
with a notation to "Remove my name AND address from your
mailing list." Works wonders.
I will NEVER EVER JOIN AARP! after their president called for cutting social security for anyone under 55. lucky me i was 54.
i called and complaied loudly.
i suggested we need a new organization for anyone under 55 to protect their social security benefits
social security and medicare can easily be fixed, by just elminating the earnings cap......
I hope aarp goes out of business..
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