Does a religious based caller selling a product for profit have to comply with the do not call list?
i got a call tonight trying to sell cemetary plots. their caller id was marked private. they called during my dinner.
this group treated me and my family very poorly when i was a kid. my mom was a single parent. the church posted the donation amount inside the church. we were broke.......
the call ended poorly, the sales lady after hearing what happened to me and my family said i was possed by the devil.
i suggested she works for a corrupt organization.
i would like to report tham for a do not call infraction
I suspect it must, but I'm quoting and quoting below and don't find
the answer. Were they trying to sell cemetery plots in the church's
own cemetery? If they don't own the cemetery, it seems like they
would be a 3rd party caller for a cemetery that might have to obey the
rules. Or if they do own the cemetery but a 3rd party service was
calling (as happens with the volunteer fire deparatment all the time,
I hear) they're not covered. Hmm. I just realized I could get them to
stop calling. AIUI, the commission they charge is high. .
At any rate, even if they were not covered, if you tell them you dont'
want them to call again, they have to stop. I think, even if they're
What calls are covered?
The do not call provisions of the TSR cover any plan, program or
campaign to sell goods or services through interstate phone calls.
This includes calls by telemarketers who solicit consumers, often on
behalf of third party sellers. It also includes sellers who are paid
to provide, offer to provide, or arrange to provide goods or services
The National Do Not Call Registry covers intrastate telemarketing
calls under the FCCs rules. You can find information on the FCCs
regulations at www.fcc.gov/cgb/donotcall/.
What types of calls are not covered by the National Do Not Call
The do not call provisions do not cover calls from political
organizations, charities, telephone surveyors, or companies with which
a consumer has an existing business relationship.
Do the do not call provisions of the TSR cover calls soliciting
money for charities?
Charities that are calling on their own behalf to solicit charitable
contributions are not covered by the requirements of the national
registry. However, if a third-party telemarketer is calling on behalf
of a charity, a consumer may ask not to receive any more calls from or
on behalf of that specific charity. If a third-party telemarketer
calls again on behalf of that charity, the telemarketer may be subject
to a fine of up to $16,000 .
The church required a donation in order to ??? and your mother didn't
have the money and ???. I don't want to pry, but you seem to want to
explain, but I don't understand.
Filing a complaint
You have multiple options for filing a complaint with the FCC:
File a complaint online
By phone: 1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322); TTY: 1-888-TELL-FCC
(1-888-835-5322); ASL: 1-844-432-2275
By mail (please include include your name, address, contact
information and as much detail about your complaint as possible):
Federal Communications Commission
Consumer and Governmental Affairs Bureau
Consumer Inquiries and Complaints Division
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On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 10:02:28 PM UTC-5, Micky wrote:
tthe cathoic church back in the 1960 published each familys donation is a parish newsletter and actually posted the amount donated each week by each family inside the church .
i was part of a single parent family, before it became popular....
my family my mom. me 6 years old and my grandma had near no money....... family gave us food.
i blame the catholic church, i got beat up as a kid because we werent a good catholic family since we didnt have the bucks todonate to the church.
i actually found the repaired places in te brick walls where the signs were attached
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 9:29:37 PM UTC-6, bob haller wrote:
ply with the do not call list?
s marked private. they called during my dinner.
om was a single parent. the church posted the donation amount inside the ch
urch. we were broke.......
e and my family said i was possed by the devil.
parish newsletter and actually posted the amount donated each week by each
family inside the church .
family gave us food.
ood catholic family since we didnt have the bucks todonate to the church.
Bob, I will take you at your word, I have never heard of anything like this
happening. The worst of heard of large parishes are fund drives where you
were required to sell raffle tickets. And this was second-hand information.
Even the K of C don't require you to buy or sell all your raffle tickets.
Just sell what you can and return the rest.
This is true, 50's, 60's and even into the 70's. I was brought up as
Catholic by devout Catholic parents who were publicly shamed by the
meager contributions my father could afford.
I could go on but I will leave it at that.
Most people who lived in the fifties and sixties
are rather elderly. And many are dead. I don't think
writing on a Usenet list will enlighten the Catholic
church at that time.
The parable of the widow's mite is told in some
Christian churches (such as Mormons / The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). Are you inviting
me to share the parable with this usenet list?
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 10:44:20 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
While I almost never go to church, mostly social thing like weddings and funerals.
my exprience with. After a near death exprience. i decided to help others.
have on multiple occasions taken in homeless people we know. house fires etc... have helped a friend with a inner city minestries....
lots of wierd helping people.
I TRULY believe the following, its not where you go on sunday, its how you live the rest of your life....... try to help others
know. house fires etc... have helped a friend with a
inner city minestries....
sunday, its how you live the rest of your life.......
try to help others
41 ¶And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld
how the people cast money into the treasury: and many
that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw
in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith
unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow
hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but
she of her want did cast in all that she had, even
all her living.
My view of this parable, is that donations can be
judged based on the wealth of the donor. A person
who is poor might be more generous with a few
cents than a wealthy man who donates largely.
I'll admit, I was mildly surprised the other
poster didn't recognize. But, well, perhaps he
was being polite and giving me the floor.
So, there is at least one thing Christians
agree? That's astounding. Next thing you know,
people will stop bashing Mormons?
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