Leaking Drain pine in the Wall ???

My kithcen sink drain pipe is leaking into my cellar. The only way I see to fix it is to take out the kitcen cabinets and open up the wall. Maybe go thru the cellar cealing? any suggestions. I suppolse there is no miricle fix for this.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 16:58:17 +0000, BMzx wrote:

No miracle fix. You will need to call a plumber and have them locate the leak then remove whatever needs removed to gain access.
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Meat Head wrote:

things, like they don't already know they can do that? are u a moron or just play one on usenet? or both?
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its easier to cut the back wall out of a cabinet than removing cabinet, that can cause all sorts of new troubles.........
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:45:47 -0400, MaxMaxwell wrote:

The poster asked if there might be a "miracle fix" which in all probability means the repair is out of their capability. I know most imbecilic fuckwits like you don't understand simple concepts like this but I though I would explain in hopes you might be the exception to the rule.
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Meat Plow wrote:

so u r a moron!
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MaxMaxwell wrote:

Maybe. But at least he knows the rules of spelling and capitalization.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 14:58:29 -0400, MaxMaxwell wrote:

Stupidity complaint sent to snipped-for-privacy@bellsouth.net.
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MaxMaxwell wrote:

In the olde days about now the bartender would start saying, "Hey, take it outside guys."
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find leak first, then call plumber if I could not fix it.
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 15:29:11 -0700, Frank wrote:

You may be right, you may be wrong. Home owners need a nest egg to take care of these issues.
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BMzx wrote:

There are soooo many variables to this.
Is there a vent pipe in the wall going up from a San TEE? If so, then you can't simply "go thru the ceiling".
Maybe you're lucky and no vent (common on old kitchen drains).
We don't know what the basement situation looks like. Where the drain runs, etc. Whether you care about disrupting the ceiling.
There is a chance that you will find the origin of the leak by opening the wall just in the area where the drain protrudes.
Do the detective work and report back.
Jim
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Removing the kitcen cab's is likely the -last- approach you wanna take. If it is an interior wall you might wanna go thru the other side, but ...

No magic wand. No.
How old is the house/kitchen? Original plumbing? Cast iron vent stacks? Copper water pipes?
You need to familiarize yourself with your drain/vent plumbing. From that and the age of the kitchen, get in idea of what needs to be replaced. Take measurements, determine if -all- the drain is inside the portion of the wall supporting the cab's.
Etc, etc.
I had the same problem last year. There was some access under the sink, the drain coupled with a vent stack about a foot clear of the cab's. All I had to do was cut a 4" x 14" hole in the wall (behind the range) to replace copper drain with PVC and rubber couplers.
Figger what's likely inside the wall and how you might gain access to it. Then render more info and ask more questions.
Cheers, Puddin'
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Maybe you will be lucky. Look around to see if there is a drain cleanout sticking out of the wall that might be leaking.

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Thanks for all the replies. I wanted to get some ideas. Here is more on the situation. I see a leak in the cellar cealing. its about 18 inces over from where the sink is. Looking under the sink in the cabinet i cant see any leaks so the exposed pipe is ok. The drain pipe going into the wall is copper. The best idea I guess is to go thru the back of the next cabinet over above the leak. I didnt think of that. ....and I am capable of fxing it myself. so again...thanks for all the response.
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One end of the copper drain pipe connects to the trap under the sink. No?
You need to know where the other end connects to <whatever>. 'Tis likely you'll need to replace the entire length of copper pipe as I did.
Penetrating the wall where the leak is may well be futile in the long-run.
Good Luck, Puddin'
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The leak might be located exactly with one of those TV cameras mounted on the business end of a cable. The device is used to find leaks in drain piping. Its possible use would depend on the ID of your drain piping. Since its an expensive tool for a one time use, you'd have to see if its available for renting. But if it works for you, you minimize the amount of tearout. Joe G
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