Furnace blows but does not heat (intermittent problem)

[m Ransley]

wack the gas valve with a piece of wood. But this occurs to me only on my first startup of my old unit

[m Ransley]

We got PJM we got Bubba we got troll we got disruption

[Justin]

| | No thanks to some of the "pros" here, but I fixed the problem myself. |

Just wondering how far you would have got without the advise from some of the more obliging people in here?

I'd get that OCD problem of yours checked.... you do know there is medication for it.... don't you?

[blueman]

If you read the post, you would see that I thanked people for their contribution -- even mentioning two people by name.

What I meant is that I didn't need to call in a "tech" which is what about a dozen people felt they needed to say repeatedly in rather foul language.

WTF r u talking about? I thought you had a serious comment...

[tnom]

I have had the same problem with HVAC elitism. The best thing you can do is educate yourself and others about your fix which is exactly what you did. The HVAC elite are more interested in their pocketbook than actually helping the general public.

[Don Ocean]

You are one stupid SOB... I walked through the debri of what used to be a Do it yourselfer home yesterday. 2 dead adults and 2 chldren. In this extreme cold weather.. the equipment takes quite a beating. So I really suggest up to date equipment and professional maintenance. And I really could care less which trained/licensed/Insured Tech you utilize. Here, if the Fire Marshal catches you f****ng with your furnace..he fines you and then turns you over to the jurisdictions Building services people. Fines run about $300 a code and safety violation and usually find about 9 or 10.= Approx $3,000.. And the Judges don't bargain on safety violations. You can of course get a permit after passing a HVAC homeowners exam. After which it is inspected before you can use it. So Shithead...Are you going to be safe or sorry? And don't call me..I am busy... And the lads we send out cost us about $2,000 each this year alone upgrading their technical education. I don't suppose it ever occurred to a Moron like you, why there is such a shortage of HVAC personal in America.. Its a 24 hour a day job... and Holidays are a thing of the past. The education curve takes in Electronic, Electric, Low and high pressure plumbing, international fuel gas codes, not to mention it is damned hard work. I do understand they are accepting Amateur HVAC experts like yourself in Iraq right now for $160,000 to $240,000 per annum. Most of us are too busy to go and aren't smart enough to commit suicide by either insurgents bullet Or Amateur Furnace Jobs!

[CJT]

Congratulations on a job well done.

[blueman]

Thanks -- you seem to be one of the few gentlemen on the alt.hvac newsgroup...

[Steve B]

"blueman" wrote

My programmable thermostat had a display on it to call a 800 number. It wouldn't blow hot air from the gas roof unit.

I called the 800#. A nice tekkie came out. We went out on the roof, and he pulled a panel. He wiggled a wire, and the thing came on. He said, "There's your problem. I can't fix it, but all you need to do is stick a toothpick in there to make it move over for a tighter contact."

He also said it would be a good idea to put in a "smart valve" assembly, and showed me how to do it. A simple job of about an hour. He told me he has seen countless toothpick fixes with the homeowner paying $100 for a service call.

I inserted said toothpick after he left. Well, long story short, the toothpick is still working.

A smart valve is $100, and $400 installed. I think I will install it myself when the weather warms up a bit. Until then, it's fine.

There ARE some good hvac guys out there. Just not a lot. I think a lot of guys who flunk out of used car school become hvacs.

Steve

[Cheri]

That is great news. I'm happy for you for a couple of reasons. Number one, that you don't have to spend a lot of money, and you know the other one. LOL

Cheri

[Cheri]

Well, your being too busy to respond is a blessing, though it's amazing that you "postal" sounding hvac techs have all this time for newsgroups, not to help or anything, just as a place to use all the vile language you learned in your widdle techie school. You people are just laughable.

Cheri

[blueman]

Thanks Cheri - I appreciate your support -- you are a rare gentleman/gentlewoman(?) among the other baboons here...

I just hope that they are not exemplars of the rest of the profession

-- I assume that the good and helpful ones are gainfully employed and know not to waste their time here among the HVAC "pro" misfits and wannabees.

[tnom]

It's your attitude and your inability to see what an ass you are that makes me repair my own furnace, and pass along knowledge to others. My hope is to make as many HVAC scum bags unemployed as I can. My apologies to the decent HVAC tech's, but you are not one of them.

[Eric in North TX]

And you are one arrogant MFer. Get a clue, a lot of DIYers are actually more competent and intelligent that the so called pros, what makes them pros is charging people for their service, not some alleged level of expertise. What makes DIYers out of customers is bad experience with these pros. When someone charges you $80 to tell you they don't have a clue, you begin to think; I already don't have a clue, $80 saved. With a little research, one can easily become familiar with any system, and with a few successes, competent to perform at least rudimentary repairs. The reason a lot of things are illegal to repair is simply lobbyists convincing lawmakers to protect tradesmen, rather than the public by and large being incompetent.

[Bubba]

Yeah, right. Screw on a new gas valve and plug the wires back in. All will be well??? Good thing you know about gas pressures, temp rise and CO levels. No problem there. You're a genius. Bubba

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[CJT]

Speaking of gas, the "professional" who installed our gas range had to do it three times before he got it right. I think there are a lot of DIYers who could do better.

[Steve Scott]

[Steve Scott]

We just serviced a system yesterday and found the air free CO over

800ppm. Went on a no heat call a week ago. Tripped flame roll out. Air free CO over 2000ppm - couldn't get the meter out quick enough.

99 times out of 100 chang>>

[Bob_Loblaw]

CJT wrote

Let me guess...you got your phone book and called around for the cheapest quote....serves you right....you'll respond and deny this, of course, but we've seen it all before...

[CJT]

This guy was an independent -- not associated with any of the big retailers.