Subscribe to the Colton Independent asshole! Its not on net.. The
Explosion was a Farmer install of a propane furnace that was vastly
oversized. Nothing was to safety standards. Appears the limit was
jumpered out one thing.
Do hold your breath shithead.. And why are you here anyway?
You don't like us so either meet me head on or shut the fuck up.
I work for a living and really don't have a lot of time for coksukers
Put your money where your mouth is! I will take that bet!
Check with Farmers insurance group...Thats who paid me for
an analysis of the equipment type after the Fire Investigations team
from Minneapolis had finished. It is after all a very rural area. But
there are licensed HVAC people in the area. The Hardware store ordered
the furnace for them.. We had another one over by Humboldt last year..
Same kind of instal etc.
"With a little research, one can easily become familiar with any system, and
with a few successes, competent to perform at least rudimentary repairs."
You really are a clueless fool, and that's why you come here looking for
answers? because you already know the answer, right?
Two things happened today.
1. I fixed my mother-in-law's washing machine and faucet.
2. I had a licensed contractor come and fix my hvac.
The fixing of the drain hose, and the flushing of sediment on the pipes of
the washing machine and faucet would have cost $100 for a plumber.
The fixing of the smart valve was $463. The thing was, no one would sell me
the parts to do it myself.
Smacks of monopoly and price controlling, if you ask me.
That's a shame. Did companies literally refuse to sell to you or did
you just have trouble finding the part?
In my (limited) experience, I have never had a problem getting supply
houses to sell to me. I try to be respectful of their business model
and come well-prepared and ready to order but beyond that I have found
everybody helpful and eager to sell to anybody with the cash.
There's more to the story. I called and asked how much the part sold for.
The tekkie said they didn't sell to the general public, but to only those
with accounts. I asked what it took to get an account. He said a tax
resale number and a business license. I said I had both. He then said to
bring them over, set up an account, and then he would sell it to me. So I
went from ignorant member of the general public to acceptable workman with
proper licensing with a few words on the telephone.
Not so everywhere.
I ended up calling a friend, and having someone he knew to do the job, since
it WAS something that dealt with natural gas, and was potentially hazardous.
I think that probably makes you more qualified than half of the "pros"
here on the group.
Although I think you may also have been able to prove your
"professionalism" by just telling the clerk "blow me" -- it seems to
be one of the key technical words of the trade :)
My programmable thermostat had a display on it to call a 800 number. It
wouldn't blow hot air from the gas roof unit.
I called the 800#. A nice tekkie came out. We went out on the roof, and he
pulled a panel. He wiggled a wire, and the thing came on. He said,
"There's your problem. I can't fix it, but all you need to do is stick a
toothpick in there to make it move over for a tighter contact."
He also said it would be a good idea to put in a "smart valve" assembly, and
showed me how to do it. A simple job of about an hour. He told me he has
seen countless toothpick fixes with the homeowner paying $100 for a service
I inserted said toothpick after he left. Well, long story short, the
toothpick is still working.
A smart valve is $100, and $400 installed. I think I will install it myself
when the weather warms up a bit. Until then, it's fine.
There ARE some good hvac guys out there. Just not a lot. I think a lot of
guys who flunk out of used car school become hvacs.
No wonder the "pros" here have so much time on their hands -- they
fail to understand that the combination of incompetence, rudeness, and
high pricing doesn't really make for a thriving business.
It amazes me how pathetic it is that these so-called professionals
feel so threatened by a couple of homeowners that they waste there
supposedly rare free time ranting and raving like a bunch of
elementary school kids. But then again most of them probably don't
have much more than an elementary school level education...
All you need to do is go up into the attic and inspect their work.
Misaligned ducts. Untapped joints. Hot and cold air blowing out of gaps
that would take a small amount of tape to seal.
Shameful. And particularly shameful when they claim to be professionals and
knowing so much.
If a guy can't see there's an inch gap in a duct, and goes on with his work,
he's a true idiot, an unprofessional, or someone who TRULY doesn't give a
Since you apparently have nothing better to do with your life than to spend
countless hours in harrassing those engaged within the hvac tirade ( whom
deserve a living wage every bit as much as any other fucking
Then suggest go step in front of the next bus or train that happens to pass
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