Can I pick my kid's MASTER combination lock to re-use them

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My teen has a half dozen of the classic MASTER combination locks which I'd like to re-use for my PE for my grade schooler, yet the teen doesn't remember the combination to any of the padlocks.
They're the classic colored-dial Master combination locks. They're all locked but not locked to anything. There is no serial number that I can see. It just says "Hardened" on the hasp.
Is there a method for finding the combination?
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On 8/21/2012 9:35 PM, J.G. wrote:

Youtube has a few videos on this subject. Not saying they work, but there are a number of videos regarding cracking Master branded locks...
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No honorable locksmith would ever teach picking, combination finding, or lock defeating on an open forum such as this. You insult locksmiths, by asking them to reveal trade secrets which could be used by burglars. Shame on you for asking.
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My teen has a half dozen of the classic MASTER combination locks which I'd like to re-use for my PE for my grade schooler, yet the teen doesn't remember the combination to any of the padlocks.
They're the classic colored-dial Master combination locks. They're all locked but not locked to anything. There is no serial number that I can see. It just says "Hardened" on the hasp.
Is there a method for finding the combination?
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:58:50 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

You're joking ... right?
We're talking about a master combination lock.
Not the keys to Leavenworth.
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says...

He's serious about this. Doubt he's a locksmith. Maybe he read a book and thinks he is. Or he changed a couple locksets. He's a trailer park birther. What do you expect? Them cheap Masterlock combos are "top secret." I used to pick the old ones by "feel." Last time I tried one a few years ago I lost patience and didn't open it. Didn't care either. How to do it is probably all over the internet, but hidden from jokers like the one who is here top-posting inane crap.
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:06:01 -0500, Truthman wrote:

When I was a kid, I remember doing that too. It was easier, IIRC, when the hasp was open. Also we'd generally remember one or two of the numbers so it was really an exercise in finding where the latch 'fit right'.
I'm trying the procedure below: How to Crack a "Master Lock" Combination Lock http://www.wikihow.com/Crack-a-%22Master-Lock%22-Combination-Lock
My first CW stop point was 39 My first CCW stop point was 2.5 So my sticking range is 39 to 2.5 That makes my sticking point 39 minus 2.5 = 36.5 Sticking point 1 of 12 Sticking point 1 of 12 Sticking point 1 of 12 Sticking point 1 of 12
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:29:05 +0000, J.G. wrote:

That article turned out to be impossible to follow. :(
Mine initially stuck at 36 to 39 counter clockwise. Then it stuck at the following numbers clockwise: 2.5, 5.5, 9, 12.5, 16, 19, 22.5, 25.5, 29, 32.5, 35.5, 39 Dropping out the seven half numbers, we end up with 9, 16, 19, 29, 39 The only unique 2nd digit is 16, so that's my 3rd number. 16/4=4 remainder 0; so 0 is my magic number. But at that point, I couldn't follow as the instructions made absolutely no sense.
They 'should' have given a concrete example, and stuck with that single example the entire way through instead of what they did.
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:29:05 +0000, J.G. wrote:

I gave up on that site above. It's impossible to follow.
I'm trying this site now: http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/masterlockcrack /
It's muuuuuuch better written!
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:30:36 +0000, J.G. wrote:

OK, I 'think' I have the third number of the lock combination triad. Here's how I did it.
Rotate the dial CW three times and then stop at the zero. Tension the shackle & turn CW, successively, to each sticking arc. NOTE: There will be 7 half points & 5 full points, e.g.: 1st sticking arc was between 2 & 3 (i.e., sticking point = 2.5) 2nd sticking arc was between 5 & 6 (i.e., sticking point = 5.5) 3rd sticking arc was between 8.5 & 9.5 (i.e., sticking point = 9) 4th sticking arc was between 12 & 13 (i.e., sticking point = 12.5) 5th sticking arc was between 15.5 & 16.5 (sticking point = 16) 6th sticking arc was between 18.5 & 19.5 (sticking point = 19) 7th sticking arc was between 22 & 23 (sticking point = 22.5) 8th sticking arc was between 25 & 26 (sticking point = 25.5) 9th sticking arc was between 28.5 & 29.5 (sticking point = 29) 10th sticking arc was between 32 & 33 (sticking point = 32.5) 11th sticking arc was between 35 & 36 (sticking point = 35.5) 12th sticking arc was between 38.5 & 39.5 (sticking point = 39)
Here are the 5 full points: 9, 16, 19, 29, 39. Looking only at the one's digit, we eliminate the duplicates. That leaves us the oddball 16, which is #3 of the combination triad!
Doublecheck #3 of the triad using this more exact method: http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/masterlockcrack/3rd-2.html
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:05:00 +0000, J.G. wrote:

Now to find #1 of the combination triad.
These are the ten possible #1 values: 1. 16/4, remainder = 0 2. 0 + 4 = 4 3. 4 + 4 = 8 4. 8 + 4 = 12 5. 12 + 4 = 16 6. 16 + 4 = 20 7. 20 + 4 = 24 8. 24 + 4 = 28 9. 28 + 4 = 32 10. 32 + 4 = 36
So, at this point, we know the third number of the triad is 16. And the first number of the triad is one of these ten numbers: 0, 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, or 36
Note: We should doublecheck these possible numbers here: http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/masterlockcrack/1st2nd-2.html
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:15:19 +0000, J.G. wrote:

Moving on to the second number of the triad:
These are the ten possible #2 values: 1. 0 + 2 = 2 2. 2 + 4 = 6 3. 6 + 4 = 10 4. 10 + 4 = 14 5. 14 + 4 = 18 6. 18 + 4 = 22 7. 22 + 4 = 26 8. 26 + 4 = 30 9. 30 + 4 = 34 10. 34 + 4 = 38
So, the ten possible #2 values of the triad are: 2, 6, 10, 14, 18, 22, 26, 30, 34, or 38
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:21:27 +0000, J.G. wrote:

So all the possible combinations are: 0 : 2 : 16 0 : 6 : 16 0 : 0 : 0 : 0 : 0 : 0 : 0 :
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:21:27 +0000, J.G. wrote:

So the 100 possible combinations are: 0 : 2 : 16 0 : 6 : 16 0 : 10 : 16 0 : 14 : 16 0 : 18 : 16 0 : 22 : 16 0 : 26 : 16 0 : 30 : 16 0 : 34 : 16 0 : 38 : 16
4 : 2 : 16 4 : 6 : 16 4 : 10 : 16 4 : 14 : 16 4 : 18 : 16 4 : 22 : 16 4 : 26 : 16 4 : 30 : 16 4 : 34 : 16 4 : 38 : 16
8 : 2 : 16 8 : 6 : 16 8 : 10 : 16 8 : 14 : 16 8 : 18 : 16 8 : 22 : 16 8 : 26 : 16 8 : 30 : 16 8 : 34 : 16 8 : 38 : 16
and so on.
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:32:38 +0000, J.G. wrote:

This video is muuuuch easier to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlArw7_cz4

Also, this web site is much easier to follow: http://voices.yahoo.com/crack-any-masterlock-15-minutes-guaranteed-418411.html?catr
Given these possible combinations, the bad news is none of them worked just now! :(
0 : 2 : 16 0 : 6 : 16 0 : 10 : 16 0 : 14 : 16 0 : 18 : 16 0 : 22 : 16 0 : 26 : 16 0 : 30 : 16 0 : 34 : 16 0 : 38 : 16
4 : 2 : 16 4 : 6 : 16 4 : 10 : 16 4 : 14 : 16 4 : 18 : 16 4 : 22 : 16 4 : 26 : 16 4 : 30 : 16 4 : 34 : 16 4 : 38 : 16
8 : 2 : 16 8 : 6 : 16 8 : 10 : 16 8 : 14 : 16 8 : 18 : 16 8 : 22 : 16 8 : 26 : 16 8 : 30 : 16 8 : 34 : 16 8 : 38 : 16
12 : 2 : 16 12 : 6 : 16 12 : 10 : 16 12 : 14 : 16 12 : 18 : 16 12 : 22 : 16 12 : 26 : 16 12 : 30 : 16 12 : 34 : 16 12 : 38 : 16
16 : 2 : 16 16 : 6 : 16 16 : 10 : 16 16 : 14 : 16 16 : 18 : 16 16 : 22 : 16 16 : 26 : 16 16 : 30 : 16 16 : 34 : 16 16 : 38 : 16
20 : 2 : 16 20 : 6 : 16 20 : 10 : 16 20 : 14 : 16 20 : 18 : 16 20 : 22 : 16 20 : 26 : 16 20 : 30 : 16 20 : 34 : 16 20 : 38 : 16
24 : 2 : 16 24 : 6 : 16 24 : 10 : 16 24 : 14 : 16 24 : 18 : 16 24 : 22 : 16 24 : 26 : 16 24 : 30 : 16 24 : 34 : 16 24 : 38 : 16
28 : 2 : 16 28 : 6 : 16 28 : 10 : 16 28 : 14 : 16 28 : 18 : 16 28 : 22 : 16 28 : 26 : 16 28 : 30 : 16 28 : 34 : 16 28 : 38 : 16
30 : 2 : 16 30 : 6 : 16 30 : 10 : 16 30 : 14 : 16 30 : 18 : 16 30 : 22 : 16 30 : 26 : 16 30 : 30 : 16 30 : 34 : 16 30 : 38 : 16
34 : 2 : 16 34 : 6 : 16 34 : 10 : 16 34 : 14 : 16 34 : 18 : 16 34 : 22 : 16 34 : 26 : 16 34 : 30 : 16 34 : 34 : 16 34 : 38 : 16
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He is somewhat of a locksmith in a backwoods hick kind of town where they have little more than Schlages and Kwiksets to deal with...
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I got my first lock related job in 1984, I think it was. Cutting keys, only. Moved from that to a job with a full service locksmith. Worked there for about a year, and then went into business for myself. I've been a locksmith for over twenty years.
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He's serious about this. Doubt he's a locksmith. Maybe he read a book and thinks he is. Or he changed a couple locksets. He's a trailer park birther. What do you expect? Them cheap Masterlock combos are "top secret." I used to pick the old ones by "feel." Last time I tried one a few years ago I lost patience and didn't open it. Didn't care either. How to do it is probably all over the internet, but hidden from jokers like the one who is here top-posting inane crap.
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On Aug 22, 5:08am, "Stormin Mormon"

And still haven't learned not to top post.
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It takes 10 seconds to shim these open.
Just give your kids a shim and don't worry about the combination.
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wrote:

If you can shim the lock open you are done. Look in the shackle hole and work the combination lining up the slots in the hole and writing down the number. Those numbers are 13 higher than the real number remembering thee carry when you go past zero. That is how far it is from the sear on the other side.
We used to get locks with the key and a lost combo all the time and get the combo this way so we could resell them..
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I'm totally serious.
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:58:50 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:

You're joking ... right?
We're talking about a master combination lock.
Not the keys to Leavenworth.
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