The damage was done during a very lush and green spring and early summer .
I bear the deer no malice , they were doing what deer do - tender young
shoots and leaves , a nibble here and a nibble there . I just need a barrier
to what I don't want nibbled . FWIW , last summer was the first time we've
had problems , and it is probably because I cleared an area they were
foraging in and replaced the undergrowth with fruit trees . They've got
plenty more , this whole hollow is mostly dense woods with lots of
You're telling me that you walked up to within 20 feet of a wild deer
and they didn't respond to your presence? That they behaved as if you
weren't there. And it's because you were wearing bright orange
coveralls and deer can't see that colour?
Do I understand you correctly?
At 20 feet, not only could the deer see you, it would have heard and
smelled you as well. The only way I could see a deer not responding is
if it was a domesticated deer from a zoo that got loose.
Aw, you clipped the part where he said he didn't move. Hard to sneak up
in an animal with eyes on both sides of its head.
I used to go out late at night smoking a Judges Cave and looking for
wildlife. Step quietly, walk upwind, shield the glow, pay attention to
how I would show up against my background.
One night I saw a rabbit and eased in almost close enough to step on it.
I wondered why an animal with eyes on both sides didn't see me. Then
I saw it was preoccupied with a fox. The fox didn't see me because I
was out of its field of vision. I waited and the rabbit escaped the
fox. I took another puff.
No, I'm telling you that I was standing still, and the deer walked up to within 20 feet of me.
It certainly did smell me! It was vigorously sniffing the air, quite loudly. Since I was standing
motionless, the only thing it might have been able to hear was my breathing.
I'm not sure what it was able to see, but it certainly didn't see anything that alarmed it -- until I
moved. *Then* it took off.
You evidently don't have a lot of experience with wild deer. They don't appear to fear things
that don't move.
On more than one occasion I've had a deer look at me while up in a
stand. Deer will stop and stare, paw and thump the ground, put it's
head down and then quickly look up to see if anything has changed. If I
have not moved, then the deer will ignore me.
'Doug Miller[_4_ Wrote:
> ;3312181']nestork firstname.lastname@example.org wrote in
> within 20 feet of me.
> loudly. Since I was standing
> anything that alarmed it -- until I
> appear to fear things
I don't hunt, but I do have a bit of experience with deer.
In the town I grew up in, which was about 25 miles north of Winnipeg and
had a population of 4400, or thereabouts, deer would often wander into
Admittedly those deer were lost and probably scared, but there's no way
you could ever get close to one. As soon as you started to approach it,
it would be off, and those things can run like the wind. Those times
where I saw the RCMP (local police) try to deal with a deer that found
it's way into someone's vegetable garden, the deer wouldn't let them get
near. The police would just scare it, allowing a clear path for it to
get out of the yard, and the deer would run out of the yard and out of
town, and that was good enough. My experience with deer is that you
can't get anywhere near 20 feet away from a deer (which is what I
thought you meant) before it would run away.
In the suburbs they are a lot more exposed to human presence.
20 ft is doable.
I had deer eat the bark off a locust I grew from seed.
I thought at about 7ft tall they'd leave it alone
so I took the cage off.
I did not look like the results of a buck scraping his horns.
The bark was removed.
Now it's about 10ft and I plan to keep the cage on until the
bark gets much thicker.
That depends heavily on how accustomed the deer are to seeing human beings. We have
a couple that wander through our neighborhood from time to time; I photographed one a few
years ago from a distance of about seven feet. The neighbor across the street told me that
her son (about 10 years old at the time) had actually petted it.
And we have a municipal park a few miles away that is jam-full of deer which aren't afraid of
humans or of leashed dogs.
Out in the forest, though -- heck, no, you can't walk within 20 feet of a deer without it running
away. Most of the time, a wild deer will take off before you get within forty or fifty yards. But if
you're standing or sitting still, making no noise, and camouflaged, they sometimes get very
close. My BIL shot one on opening day this year from a tree stand at a distance of just over
The killer snow belt was maybe ten or so miles
wide, and thirty or so miles long (just guessing).
I was outside the affected area, and didn't get
bombed under. I carefully avoided that area.
Thanks for asking.
Christopher A. Young
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