I just had AC service done last week and the technician said that
there were no freon in the system at all. As far as I know frean
doesn't just disapper and since it worked fine last summer there must
be a leak. So he added 8lb and the system works fine but I noticed
some kind of white sludge on a plastic cover of my basement window
next to the copper freon pipe. Here is a pictures of what it looks
Is that the place of my possible leak?
A 'sniffer' detector should be able to pick up the leak quite easily.
Best done on a day with no wind. Call your servicing company and ask
them to do the leak check for you. IMO, they should have done it
during the system recharge. Good luck.
This is the way the bill reads
Diagnostic Analysis: $65.00
4.5lbs R22 1st lb 75.42 each lb after that 46.03: $236.45
Desc. of work: Found unit low on R22 ref charged unit w/4.5 lbs. Checked for
leak outside and found no leak. Leak most likely in evap coil.
Recommendation: Get ready to replace system.
The tech told me it wasn't worth spending a lot of time on it as it's just
money down the drain. He said R22 has gone through the roof and I should
have the system replaced when the pressure drops again. He quoted me
anywhere around 5k to 10k for a new system. So far I have about 1/2 of the
money saved up for a new system. The one I have now is an Amana 042. He said
it was a cheap system.
I figured the repair and the quote was too expensive and I wouldn't use that
particular company to replace unit. I wasn't too impressed with Christian
Bros. despite the good reviews they have from other customers.
Well, we often feel repairs & quotes are too expensive in many arenas..
WTF? Like they pay more for the 1st lb when they buy it?! All adds get hit
with the first lb premium. 75*30=$2,250. Can you imagine? They can get up
to that much out of a 30lb can. I'd say they are a ripoff.
Sounds like a good way to calculate the mark up.
Thing is, that HVAC companies have a lot of expenses that don't get itemized
in the bill. Gasoline, insurance, wages, etc. It's not like you walk into
the store and ask the butcher for a pound of R-22 and slice it thin. We come
to you, in a gasoline drinking van full of heavy tools.
to my house for $198. I'm new to this type of A/C being from the SW but I
learn quickly. I'll be damned If I'll ever pay that kind of mark up again.
That company is going to have to explain what the hell is going on. The tech
told me the prices are going through the roof for R22. Sounds like he
exaggerated to me.
I'm getting my grill heated up right now.
Whole system with better SEER but if it's not that old, coil may be
dirty or leak may be from there. Today's techs don't like jobs taking
too much time like looking/checking for leak. If it loses freon again,
you can pressure test it and then find where the leak is if test fails.
I have bro.-in-law who is in the business(BIG commercial contractor)
when I need dhelp he sends out a tech we can trust.
Was that for a service call plus the r22 ?
I have not priced the r22 in many years. Think I gave about $ 70 for a 20
or 30 lb container of it. Must have been about 10 years ago.
What is the current price for r22 in a container ?
Thanks, that sounds more like what I thought the cost should be. About 15
years ago I had a house that would loose enough r22 on a central air system
to freeze up once a year. After two years I bought a 30 lb container for
about what a service call was, somewhere around $ 70. I put some in and
checked the connections (screw together for the lines) and did not have to
add any more after that. Still had almost all of the container.
Bought another house and the 20+year old heatpump went out. Put in a new
Train unit. Had a choice of the r22 or the newer refrigerant system.
Decided to stay with the r22 as I have it in my head that had been around
for many years and it runs at less pressure so maybe it would last longer.
I just did not think the r22 had gone up like the r12. Years ago it was
about a dollar a pound can and later after the band it was about $ 18. Not
sure what it is now or if they even sell it. Think I still have about 6
cans I bought for $ 9 each, but nothing to put it in now.
The old "little cans" of R-12 sometimes can still be found. I have a couple
in my refrigerator. Reminds me, I've got a call to work on some R-12
equipment at a restaurant, here's my chance to get rid of them. Nothing is
made with R-12 any more.
I'd offer to buy them from you except that we're probably too far away.
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