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Hi All,
I have a new (to me) dwelling with a very badly neglected lawn. Virtually all weeds. Can anyone recommend a site that would point me to the right direction as to how to get rid of what I have and start over.
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the guy upstairs said:

google: "lawn renovation"
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1) Multiple broadleaf weed controls, then over seeding. 2) Over seed alone (bad idea) 3) tear up the whole lawn and resod/reseed.
Personally the first option is the cheapest and easiest. But hire someone to spray the lawn, atleast the first time around, it'll cost you a lot less!
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Mike wrote:

That assumes that the only problem is broadleaf weeds. If the lawn is in very bad shape, it likely has other weeds and even worse undesirable grasses that broadlead weed control isn't going to solve. A better approach is to kill everything using Roundup and then reseed after it's all dead. That assumes that the topsoil is decent, otherwise it's time to fix that first.

Why would it cost much less to hire someone to spray the lawn? Weedkiller or glyphosate isn't that expensive. And most places, lawn care companies aren't interested in one time treatment, nor are they going to do it on the cheap.
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then clean up problem areas as they arise. Much cheaper than killing off the whole lawn.

extremely expensive when buying it retail. Also a spray truck will do a lawn in a lot less time.
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Mike wrote:

Because as I said, that assumes what you have are broadleaf weeds that are easy to kill with a selective herbicide. It isn't easy or even possible to kill off many undesirable weeds and grasses without killing off whatever desirable grass there may be. A lawn that has poa tirvialis, rough stalk blue grass, for example. There is nothing that I know of that will eliminate that, or similar undesirable grass, without killing the desirable grass.
Then, you can have existing random grasses that are not of the desired color and texture. Or grass that is disease prone. You can spend the next 10 years trying to overseed and deal with that or you can easily kill the whole thing off and start over. Then you can have a uniform lawn using new disease and insect resistant varieties that have great color, texture, and other desirable charecteristics.
Much cheaper than killing off the

$20 worth of glyphosate too much for your budget? What do you think selective herbicide, grass seed, renting a slice seeder, fertilizing, watering, and all the rest costs, not to mention labor?

Only if your stupid enough to buy it pre-mixed a gallon at a time. It's readily available at agri supply centers or online for anyone that cares to look. Even if you buy it concentrated at a home center, it's not a major cost factor in any lawn renovation.

Yes, that's true. Now go find one that will do a one time application for a lawn renovation, without doing the whole job or taking a yearly contract. Here in NJ they wouldn't even talk to you. But, I don't recall that time was the issue. You claimed you could get a pro lawn care company to apply a one time herbicide treatment and that it was cheaper than doing it yourself. I can buy enough glyphosate for $50 to kill all the grass and weeds in the whole neighborhood.
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Thank you all. I've gotten a lot of good tips.
I'm goign to try to get rid of the weeds I have and over seed. and see what that does.
If that dosn't work I'll get rid of the lawn and start all over.
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:04:35 -0500, the guy upstairs

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