UV-C Light

Th UV-C Light do not have any heat discharge they run cool, so heat is not a factor. The optimum distance from the coil is 12". And yes UV Light will eventually disintegrate plastics. This can be simply avoided by placing aluminum tape in any of those ares which would be few inside the plenum or air handling room. They are either 12" (if space permits) from the coil and on the downstream air, but can be put on the return but you want to kill anything prior to the air distribution.

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YEAH, that's real convenient (use aluminum tape), NOT!!!!!!!

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<kjpro

I have a UV Sterilizer on my fish tank its made from pvc pipe and the uv light in the middle it would take 8-10 years for the UV to cause a problem with the plastic for an example. And like I said in most cases there is bx wiring and not much other plastics are inside a system.

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It would cost more money to clean the coil and would not be as effective. The unit would operate better with no restrictions on the coil 100% of the time verses only when the coil is cleaned (1 time every

6 mo. which is rare and more like 1 time a year maybe in residential people never do it). If you used uncloggers or power washed the coil you still would not penetrate deep into the coil. UV-C will reflect (aluminum is the best reflective source for UV) throughout the unit and in between the fins on the coil to clean everywhere.

There is no gimmick it work just as the sun does outdoors purifying our air. That does seem like a bit much to do the return air. But everything else (if the system was properly calculated and there obviously more than just mold was a concern) would be correct. Th bulbs all 8 of them would still be cheaper than most cleaning costs with the extended benefits all year long, not just at cleaning time.

The National level supports the use of UV. The efficiency improves on the HCAV system and you only operating light bulbs, which have very little energy draw. To cycle it with the fan might not be a bad idea.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Please tell me why we have to *clean* condenser coils. Afterall, the Sun&#39;s UV-C should be keeping them clean by your ideas.

Is there not smog in the air? I call your talk *bullshit* all the way around.

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There is no telling you anything, you know all......... Just one question for you genius, how would the sun&#39;s UV-C get to a coil (**HINT**, that&#39;s why UV-C Light was created) that is in a house in a closet that&#39;s inside the plenum. Read more of hat I posted, I answered the questions already. Yeah, if you live in California. Too much pollution that its overpowering our natural resources to clean the air.

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Actually I&#39;m surprised that you believe in technology at all, even in the respect of HVAC.

Why use a condenser, evaporator, coil, thermostat, chiller, cooling tower, compressor, etc. Shit just get a aluminum garbage can filled with ice and put a fan behind it Reverse application for Heat ,, build a in fire in the garbage can.

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I think you need to learn about *where* your own products are installed.

I said *condenser* coil you stupid ass salesman!! Now please tell me you don&#39;t *think* they&#39;re installed in some plenum that&#39;s in a closet!

BTW, how&#39;d that coil get installed "in a house" "in a closet" that&#39;s "inside the plenum"? LMAO

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No, actually, you&#39;re the one that believes in imaginary things.

I think you better go to an HVAC school before you *think* you know more than we do.

Where&#39;s that condenser coil mounted again. LMAO

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Your right again genius my mistake, what is the coil inside the plenum on a residential unit the "A Coil" is where I am talking about that&#39;s where the UV-C light is placed. Like I said I explained this before.

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Which doesn&#39;t answer my question to you about cleaning *condenser* coils does it? No

Here it is again: "Please tell me why we have to *clean* condenser coils. Afterall, the Sun&#39;s UV-C should be keeping them clean by your ideas."

You want to twist words to make it look like you&#39;re right. Just like a snake oil salesman.

Well, let me tell you, I&#39;m not that gullable...

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"Home Enviro Health Specialists" wrote in message news:rmC9i.1829$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe12.lga...

It&#39;s lots more fun to put them on the "B Coil".

Ok... you&#39;ve been asked this in more technical terms than you seem to understand, so let me ask you in really simple layman&#39;s terms---

Even if this thingy of yours does kill mold, break down organics, reduce pollen to "mere dust".... What in heaven&#39;s name stops those decomposition products from dirtying up the EVAPORATOR coil exactly the same way they would have when they were "active" pollutants. They&#39;re still particulates, man. How does the magic of UV-C remove them from the air stream?

Even more interesting; how the heck does an array of lamps _clean_ the surface of the coil? Sterilize, I could understand; but _clean_ ?

That&#39;s why your story comes across as pure crap.

LLoyd

LLoyd

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You still use filters to filter out some particulates the smaller ones the filter will not and the light kills them in either the downstream air and 12" from the coil itself. The UV light bounces around in the system (aluminum being the best reflective source) and kills them and they will fall off the coil (I can show you pictures and case studies) as the pass through the light in the air stream. Not magic science. Mold grows on the coil and everything sticks to it. Mo mold on the coil means the coil will remain clean. Not crap either, it truth.

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That&#39;s because it *is* pure crap.

"Fall off the coil", yeah... just like everything else... it falls into the built-in trash can. LOL

Crap, Period...

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"Home Enviro Health Specialists" wrote in message news:ifD9i.852$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe12.lga...

Indeed: Truly not magic science.

You&#39;re telling us that the only reason a coil lints up is from mold. And when there is no mold, the coil remains new-metal bright. Right?

So... how do you handle sticky aerosols like tobacco tars? Does the UV light magically render them solids so they just "drop off the coil", too?

If they survive the UV treatment and condense on the coil, are they no longer sticky?

Does the UV prevent a fiber of lint that sneaked through the filter (or which the filter even created) from folding around the edge of a fin and sticking from mechanical force? Can the UV then prevent other fibers from tangling with that one mechanically?

By the way -- what growth medium is there on bare aluminum fins for mold? Oh... yeah... all that organic stuff; lint, pollen, live/dead bacteria.... But WAIT... you said the mold made those things stick, but they were there first, or the mold couldn&#39;t grow. I&#39;m confused.

So is it maybe the dust that makes the mold stick? No, you said the mold makes the dust stick. Hmmmm... Molds actively trapping food... interesting.

I think I&#39;ll stick to cleaning the evaporators, and keeping the grass out of the condensors.

Too much notmagicscience makes my head hurt. Besides, all the "it not" syntax makes me believe you&#39;re the same people putting aldehydes in toothpaste and melamine in pet food. I&#39;m on a personal campaign to avoid buying any Chinese goods I can possibly live without -- and I read labels, and I talk to friends.

LLoyd

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The amount of lint would be minute. If any did get through they would eventually get blown through with the air pressure or run off from the condensation on the evaporator coil.

If you kill off all of the mediums yes mold can&#39;t grow and the coil would not be sticky, yes that is correct too.

UV is not an application for the condensator, only the evaporators.

UV is naturally emitted from sun light- UV-A, UV-B UV-C, its completely natural. Better than chemicals (they will just add to the VOC&#39;s in the air stream) and pressure washing that will just have the mold still be there and grow better than ever because you just added more water.

Might want to consider Carbon Bonded filters for more control of the mediums and VOC&#39;s, and less lint,etc. from getting to the coil.

-- Jim - UV-C Light Purification e-mail: snipped-for-privacy@uvclightpurification.com -------------------------- HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *mold Downstream Air Purification -------------------------- Proven case studies, EPA Evaluation, Etc.

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Nah, why get upset.

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Home Enviro Health Specialists

Wooo group;

Put on the BLAKE LIGHT! [Not a typo]

You getting UVC salesperson all upset

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Zephyr

He actually runs a maid service. Apparently, he&#39;ll come to your house, and suck your bed off. Then he gives it the once over with a germicidal lamp. He then gives you a bottle of magic spray (that&#39;s what he calls called Anti-Alergen spray) to deal with the leftover bits and pieces of what he says kilt with the UV-C light.

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By his own explanation earlier here, the UV-C turns the bad stuff into dust. So, he should be sucking the bed off after he makes dust out of all the goodies left on the mattress - if not before and after. Of course, if he were to read up on the subject, REAL studies done have shown that most of the mites live deeply in the mattress, so the magic UV light can&#39;t even get to them. Maybe he just uses it like a blacklight to see who&#39;s been doing who......

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