what's the opposite of "Obtainium"?

snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com on Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:15:25 -0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Of course "every body else" is doing it wrong.

His money, his life, his junked Jeep. As long as he's not an active hazard to the community, what's it to ya?

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pyotr filipivich
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Opinion. It's a poor use of time. I doubt many consider the number of heartbeats they have left, in their economic decisions. ...or even the opportunity cost of doing such things. I would probably pay better to be a greeter at WallWorld.

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krw

snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com on Thu, 22 Apr 2021 20:19:32 -0400 typed in rec.woodworking the following:

Good point.

Bye.

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pyotr filipivich

+1

Children are our future. Indoctrination has always been a vital element with every Communist revolution. By far the worst mistake this country has made yet was not guarding our children from the leftists agenda sooner.

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Spalted Walt

Facts are scary - to those who have such hard-felt "beliefs" - but facts matter ...

Look at the 24 countries ranking better than good 'ol US of A and decide which of those are .. just a little bit more socialist ..

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I'll never stand-and-defend the big-fat-cat public service unions but will not blame the teachers ! In my experience they are a very dedicated bunch. The good ones can often rank above the parents - for positive influence on the kids - and will be remembered for life by their grateful students. .. the few bad ones will also be well remembered .. and it wasn't the union that made them that way. John T.

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hubops

So, if the "good 'ol USA" was "just a little bit more socialist" we too, could climb up the list... OK. Got it.

Except, back in the '60s, I'm pretty sure the "good 'ol USA" was near the top of the 'list' (certainly in the top 5), yet we were inarguably far less "socialist" than we are now. So yea, John "facts matter".

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Spalted Walt

You're using beliefs and opinions again .. Without going back 60 years, I also suspect that the USA is trending downward - but I'll stop short of blaming the teachers or their unions for everything that is wrong with the system. John T.

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hubops

Sixty years ago *we* were trending downward into socialism. Teachers were already indoctrinated, particularly in the humanities and "soft sciences" (anything with "science" in it's title, isn't).

I was there. As he said, facts matter.

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krw

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Well in all fairness, vehicles built in the US were pieces of crap from

72~2000. Progressively getting better year by year. Emission systems that hardly worked and wasted fuel was not healthier for the earth.

Seems this is when the Japanese entered our market and pretty much showed us how a vehicle should be built.

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Leon

Glad you only went back to 1972 ! 1971 MotorTrend's Car Of The Year Chevy Vega ... :-) John T.

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hubops

Which was actually a pretty nice car until it rusted away. My Dad had one--he really enjoyed driving it.

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J. Clarke

I had one as a teenager - my second car - it was ~ 4 years old & I paid $ 450. for it - I needed wheels fast for a job transfer - - the rust-repairs were already failing badly ; it burned oil ; noisy ; no trunk space ; uncomfortable seats ; terrible rear wheel drive traction ; etc I can't think of a single plus that I could grant it.

One winter morning, I was spinning on a patch of snow in the parking lot when a nice guy offered a push - he put one hand on the drivers door handle and his other hand grabbed the rear fender well - and gave a good heave-ho - he apologized as he stood there with a good chunk of fender in his hand - I thanked him for the help and said don't worry about it .. you can keep that .. :-) true story.

Drove it about 2 years and gladly scrapped it. Car-Of-The-Year ! yeah right. John T.

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hubops

I suspect one of the reasons my Dad liked it was that we lived in Florida where winter traction wasn't an issue.

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J. Clarke

And millenials had exactly what to do with that?

After our parents showed them how to do it.

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krw

The Monza was the Car of the Year for 1975. It was just a dressed up Vega.

I had a '70 AMC Gremlin. That really should have been Car of the year. They made more money on parts than the car. It _had_ to be profitable.

I got rid of that four years later for a Mustang II, which was just a Pinto in drag. I could really pick 'em.

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krw

$450

I only had my Mustang II for three years until the body rotted out so badly it couldn't be driven.

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krw

I had a couple friends with AMC cars - they seemed to have the weirdest things break - a Gremlin was the only case that I have ever heard of a seat breaking - drivers seat-back - the car wasn't abused and no extra-large drivers. The rolling greenhouse <Pacer>

was said to be a nightmare for getting parts - mid year model changes & a parts/supply chain that couldn't cope .. John T.

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hubops

I don't remember which car it was (probably the Gremlin) but I had a seat back break too. It was a 2-door so the front seat tilted forward. There was a sheet metal part of the seat that blocked a pin on the bottom frame sheet metal. The pin bent the metal and... Of course the parts were part of the seat and couldn't be replaced without replacing the seat. It was 40+ years ago and I can't remember how I got by.

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krw

Friend of mine had an Eagle--by the time he sold it Flintsone Brakes was an option--there was no longer a floor in it.

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J. Clarke

I had one, a 72 GT. I lived 3 miles from the coast and never had rust in 3 years. Unfortunately the engines were a POC.

The basic design was decent though. In 1975 the basic same car with an updated body and V6 and V8 engines were introduced as the Olds Starfire, Chev Monza, Buick Skyhawk, and Pontiac Sunbird?, something or another.

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Leon

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