It was just a lesson I picked up, I'm not married to it.
An "inset" door adds more to the aura of craftsmanship, ay?
I agree that a "fake stile" would be off the charts cheap! it took me
a few seconds to even imagine one.
After I build a carcase, I can assess whether it will be able to support
inset doors or not--or maybe just one of each! : )
Equally important with batch cutting, and the overriding pursuit of
square, in building cabinetry and furniture:
Design parameters, and certainly the final dimensions of many components
(doors and drawers), more often than not hinge (no pun intended) upon
the hardware being used!
Rule: Decide upon the hardware you are going to use for the entire
project ...to wit: hinges and hardware for the doors; drawer slides and
hardware for the drawers.
Rule: Then purchase those hinges, drawer slides and all hardware
_BEFORE_ you begin the project; or, at a very minimum, satisfy yourself
110% that said hardware, or alternate hardware that requires the exact
same dimensions you built to, will be available upon completion.
There are NO exceptions to the two above rules ... none.
Or, more simply put: Decide upon your hardware before you design and build.
I can't say I agree with you (or Swingman) on this. The stile isn't fake
except that it isn't part of the face frame. What it does is give you
complete access to a large, double door cabinet.
Logically, large things are stored in large cabinets and if there were a
center stile on the face frame the size of storable items would be cut way
On a properly designed, modern cabinet and properly hung/hinged doors I
can get that without a center stile, and, better yet, without having to
open and close cabinet doors in sequence:
Thirty years ago, both those cabinets would have had partial inset doors
with a fake center stile because it was easier/cheaper to do it that
way, and took less skill.
Even worse on frameless cabinets ... ugh.
Not necessary in today's modern kitchen, as shown above.
Besides, there is little as fugly as the ubiquitous dings on the
adjacent door made by the fake stile when opening/closing in the wrong
sequence ... unless it is the ubiquitous off-the-shelf molding
traditionally used to make the lip by those without the skill set to do
a proper door. :)
My clients can't wait to get rid of the damned things ... and I haven't
had any one request them in longer than I can remember.
Of course, you're correct ... YMMV ;)
Very true except I like solid wood overlay doors and need an area for
"Solid" because I like the clean look; "overlay" because I can get cleaner
by doing away with pulls by cutting a short cove in the top centers. YMMV
Face frames are normally narrow, NP with expansion/contraction popping them
loose from the case. One can always attach them mechanically too; heck,
that is my norm...FF screwed to the case, no glue, screw holes plugged with
face grain plugs cut from same wood as the FF.
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