It's a PITA to have to scan through some times 2 or 3 or more messages to get to a reply. Some of you think it's ridiculous to top post, but that's your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine! As Bill Murray would say, "that's the facts Jack"!
So you don't like people who don't trim un-needed content. I agree. I also think that having answers after questions makes sense.
The real problem is trimming post, not top or bottom posting.
OTOH, when you take over as moderator, you can insist on top posting.
Change of heart I see. Several months you chastised me because that is what I did. In fact some content should be trimmed all together if it pertains to the poster and not everyone in general.
IMHO if the message that you are replying to is long and drawn out, top post it. If it is short, 7 or 8 lines, bottom post it. If the reply is some what detailed or personally directed to one person, post "only the answer". I feel there is no need to repeat everything for single answers.
As far as I'm concerned, pick something - top, bottom or if the subject line has the question, delete all and just answer. In the long run - who really cares?
Dave
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Personally I agree with you 100 percent... especially when that reply at the bottom of the message is one word....
However....Top Posting is NOT the accepted practice...does not stop me from using it most of the time however....(lol)
Bob G.
Who really cares????????
Top, bottom, doggy - it's all about variety.
Mon, Mar 7, 2005, 10:28pm (EST+5) snipped-for-privacy@telnet.com (Bob) claims: It's a PITA to have to scan through some times 2 or 3 or more messages to get to a reply. Some of you think it's ridiculous to top post, but that's your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine! As Bill Murray would say, "that's the facts Jack"!
NO, the real PITA is when people do not snip.
JOAT Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold
Sex, doggy style: He sits up and begs; she rolls over and plays dead.
Gerry
what?
:-)
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 19:24:31 -0500, "G.E.R.R.Y." vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
And the problem is....?
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:50:13 GMT, jo4hn vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
[snip]
Oh boy. I can't wait to spend endless hours following up/reading the response to this one. Just say (tmPL) it'll be the usual suspects.
Wake me when it's over.
UA100
ALWAYS trim posts. That's the polite thing to do. It takes an extra 10 seconds to do this.
100,000 readers deserve 10 seconds of effort, right?
Well actually I think that each post being answered to should be considered as to how to answer. Trimming often means having to look at another post to understand the response. Many think it is impolite to not have everything right there in front of them.
"Teamcasa" wrote
Bottom posting wastes people's time by scrolling thru huge texts just to find a few words. Top posting wastes disk space on news servers and many people are going to scroll down to the bottom, wondering whether you have anything more to say. These problems are multiplied when you quote an entire posting that in turn quotes an entire posting.
-- The "--" means to anything under it will be deleted by some news server. Here are more tips.
If you're responding to more than one point, you should intersperse your comments among sections of quoted text, in point-counterpoint style. Put a blank line between each section, to help the reader distinguish them.
Effective "trimming" is a skill that improves with practice. If someone complains, look closely at what you did and re-evaluate your quoting strategy. If anyone wants to read your trimmed text they can refer up the thread.
Attribute quotes properly by placing your comments after the comment(s) that you are responding to, like this:
Nit Picker wrote: >Trivia Wiz wrote >>Palm Guy wrote: >>>Island Fan wrote: >>>>Trivia Wiz wrote >>>>>Who is named in the original theme song of Gilligan's >>>>>Island? >>>>
Those *poor* people.
But not like this,
Those *poor* people.
Nit Picker wrote: >And the Howells and Ginger were described, not named. >
After all, most people agree that it's a Good Thing to use correct spelling and grammar, but they also agree that spelling, grammar and formatting all contribute to people's impressions of you, and have at least some influence on how seriously other people will take you.
In newsgroups, your words are the only "visible" evidence that people can judge you by. They also affect how easy it is for people to read it, and understand the points that you're trying to make. In general, people don't like to be slowed down by scrolling through unnecessary material, or by having to stop and re-construct the logical sequence.
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When you're trying to have a conversation, both context, and flow, are important. If your goal is to make pronouncements and/or just have the last word, making yourself easy to respond to I suppose isn't a priority.
If usenet is about effective communication, then a conversational, "question then answer" style is the most logical.
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