Often it has been discussed how to best collect dust created by a SCMS or
CMS. The answer has almost always been, it cannot be done with great
results. Many have shown devised setups that seem to work well but is it
also reported that regardless of how well these modifications work there is
still a pretty good mess to clean up. On top of that, the collector is most
often stationary or part of a stationary stand.
Changing direction for a bit here it has often been mentioned the seemingly
excessive expense of certain brand tools and how the expense would prevent a
person from ever considering that brand. As true with anything the initial
cost of purchasing a tool will always be out of someone's price range. At
one time PC products were a stretch for me, fortunately I have over come
Back on topic, I was watching "Ask" This Old House today and noticed Tommy
using a new tool. In recent months Tommy has been using a lot of new tools
and not too coincidentally they are of the same brand. Is he or Ask TOH
using a new sponsor? I have not seen credits going to this company nor does
a search of this company on the "Ask" TOH web site turn up any results. Of
all the wood working shows and talented professionals on these type shows I
have never heard any discouraging words that would indicate that he does not
carry the respect of most any wood worker.
A viewer asked "Ask" TOH to help him out with crown moldings in his kitchen.
The homeowner had been able to do most every thing himself but the crown
moldings in a seemingly complicated area had him baffled. Tommy stepped in
and showed how to cut crown molding for irregular angled corners with a
SCMS. No coping, all cuts were done on the SCMS, right there inside the
house. It took me a few minutes to realize that there was not a cloud of
saw dust in side the homeowners house. For that matter I backed the video
up and watched the cuts being made and again did not notice any saw dust
escaping. Then I saw a black hose with green stripes in it. Hum the mostly
black SCMS had a few green spots on it as well. Backing up again and
forwarding frame by frame revealed the Festool name on the SCMS motor
housing. The saw is not available for sale in the US yet so I would be sure
that the saw was probably donated but it was certainly not promoted in the
show or web site. Surely this is going to be another expensive product from
Festool and many are not going to be able to justify the price of this
machine. For those that make a living using their wood working tools I can
see how this saw would be a big benefit when working inside a customers home
and not having to set up shop in the rain or snow so many yards away from
the project. Imagine not having to put up dust screens or go in and out
side the home time after time to saw or sand pieces on the project. Imagine
not tracking saw dust all over the house on the way outside to make another
cut. Imagine this 2 hour crown molding job only taking 20 minutes because
you spend your time working and not cleaning up, walking in and out side
time after time for a 10 second cut.
Although I can afford a few of those nice Festool toys, I really can't
justify the price for a casual ww'er. But I'm going to watch again for that
episode, and start taking bets on the under/over price of a Festool SCMS....
Yeah, I can afford the Festool line also but the SCMS probably would not
find itself in my shop as I have a 12" Delta CMS that I quit using in the
shop about 7 years ago. Once I upgraded to a cabinet saw I literally quit
using the CMS. If I have an outside job I pull the CMS out but that does
not happen very often. It has been about a year since I have used it. IIRC
I read an article by one of the WW magazines and a group visited the Festool
factory and the saw was going to be under but closer to $1k than most any
other brand. It did have some rather unique pluses that would set it apart.
Here is the one I read about earlier.
WOW.. I'm glad I'm an amateur!
My TS and band saw combined were about $1,000 and I thought that $200 on sale
for the Craftsman CSM was a bit high....
Then again, I just paid $2,500 for a lathe that I didn't really need... ;~]
Please remove splinters before emailing
Honestly I think all the manufacturers to this point just stick a hole
for a vacuum at the top of the guard and didn't put one iota into
actually making it work. On my Bosch it can work half decent on thick
material, 2x4s and the like. Anything thinner and I can see the dust
go shooting right by the sides of the guard. If it just had more of a
scoop to it at the bottom it would work. That's what it looks like to
me on the Festool. It's also way WAY too constricted on the Bosch, it
sounds like a freight train when I turn on the vac. So I don't think
this is any particularly monumental invention, just someone spent more
than 5 minutes on the dust collection.
And yes, Tommy can't go 5 minutes without breaking out a Festool toy.
It's the only time he actually gets his hands dirty anymore. I know
PBS has some rules about advertising so you aren't going to hear
anything actually spoken about it, but gone are the days when they
taped over all the manufacturers names.
I am not sure what the restrictions on PBS would be as Delta and Porter
Cable, Miniwax, Vermont American, GMC etc. open TOH and NYW always open the
show in Houston.
Additionally PBS or not, the This Old House web site does not mention
Festool but mentions Craftsman and other brand tools.
IIRC the restrictions that got Bob in trouble was him being paid for ads out
side of TOH, working for Sears.
They have time for ads at the beginning and end and that is all they
are allowed, they can't do anything in the actual program is my
understanding. When Norm has a project using specific hardware note
he doesn't tell you where to get it, but it's on the plans. They
introduced the Sawstop contractor saw version on Ask TOS, but I don't
think they ever said Sawstop.
So Festool are being sneaky about it. And by not also having ads it
looks more like hey, Tommy is just using Festool because it's so
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:45:38 GMT, "Leon"
And as soon as the Festool truck pulls up with my free samples of one
of each from the catalog I will agree with you.
Any minute now, I'm sure.
I'd settle for them naming one of their bazillion lines of ROS papers
with cutesy names after me.
Here it is, and interactive video with sever choices of tools to llok at.
Choose english and click the green arrows on the bottom right side of the
display and then pick the tool.
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