The saga of the wooden San Jose Schools BATHROOM PASS continues

[J Burns]

You would have been safe at our school. Strict policy against knives in the shower. Most blades were carbon steel, which could rust.

[Danny D.]

John Grossbohlin wrote, on Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:19:24 -0400:

Here's a quick four-sentence takeaway ...

1. Those classes were short, at only 1 hour and 15 minutes.
2. Students don't move about, once in class.
3. It's mostly lecture.
4. The kids are constantly chastised.

[Danny D.]

Bill wrote, on Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:19:12 -0400:

I did help her create some worksheets, as she was unfamiliar with manipulating Microsoft Office to make graphs.

I ended up making tables, and it took a while to figure out how to make the boxes the same with and length, and then how to add the x and y axis, as I couldn't get the tables to "group" with the drawn axis even myself.

In the end, I gave up on Microsoft Word simply because I couldn't get the non-groupable items to move together, as a single unit, when text was changed.

So, I opted for PowerPoint, instead of Word, and made a few templates for her for her worksheets. She put the kids in groups, and they moved the chairs together (forcing them to stand up) and they worked together.

That gives the kids "some" exercise.

[Bill]

The kids can work in groups standing around the edge of the room, working together at the "board" for instance (you suggested this was a math class). Keep them out of their chairs!!! What do they need chairs for? Perhaps let them return to their chairs as a "reward" for finishing their work (but you do not wish to turn it into a race!) I think it works best if you arrange the groups to consist of students of balanced ability--otherwise the weakest and the strongest students seem to end up in the same group. The idea is for the strong students to help the weaker ones. BTDT.

[J Burns]

Yeah! What was I supposed to do in a 50-minute lecture when my attention span was under a minute? The fact that lectures were endless repetition showed that teachers knew we were unable to pay attention. They were putting us in a position where we had to sit still and pretend to pay attention all day long.

Each teacher would proudly tell us how many hours we were expected to spend on daily homework for that class. Add it up, and if you did nothing but attend classes and do your homework, there might be time for

4 hours' sleep at night.

It sure seemed abusive to me, but this article says teachers really are that stupid.

[Bill]

They are all the same, huh? Was that your experience?

[Bill]

Part of their job was to condition you for WORK as a member of society. Don't they expect you to pay attention all day long at work?

[Stormin Mormon]

That's seriously incredible. What a major learning moment. And to think, schools over the whole great nation do that to kids every school day? Time for the peasants to start a number two pencil revolt. You have nothing to lose but your desks in rows!

- . Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus

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[josephkk]

If you are so wise let's hear your solutions to each case where you kvetched. There are several, let's hear what you would have the teacher/school do.

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[josephkk]

It largely is/was since the 1970s. I saw it, i was there. About mid

2001 decade the parental rebellion about no schools for performance started to get results. So far only tokenism such as charter schools. Real reform won't happen until the teachers unions are broken. Which requires a society of responsibility for your actions. Not something to hold your breath for.

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[Sjouke Burry]

And dont mind being an aso.

[josephkk]

foolishness.

I post to suit me.

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