Agreed. Unless there is some contribution from everyone, an hour is a
lot. At work, meetings generally last an hour, though design reviews
can lass all day. There is a lot of participation, though. Neither
are "lectures", by any stretch). When suppliers come in for classes,
they take 15 minute breaks about every 45 minutes (time to stretch and
check emails ;-). OTOH, we aren't required to check out a plunger to
go to the rest room, either. In fact, attendance is rarely required.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 01 Nov 2014 08:59:41 -0400:
As a matter of fact, the teacher (who is brand new to teaching) asked me
for advice on how to keep the kids *engaged* for the entire hour and
forty five minutes.
She, knowing I'm good at googling, asked me to find some math games, and
I also gave her a big bag of extra Halloween chocolate I had bought,
which she is going to use to "reward" the kids when she catches them
She also knows my strong feeling that math isn't taught correctly, which
is a very long story, but the short of it is that math needs to be taught
from the practical problem standpoint.
For example, I suggested she think from the perspective of two kids
throwing rocks into a lake. What happens, mathematically. Or two kids
trying to kick a soccer ball into a net, while clearing the height of the
other kids. Things like that might keep the kids engaged, if, I
suggested, she *start* a problem that the kids might be interested in,
and then, working backwards, she bring in the math, and, in the end, the
equation and graphs (and, ug, proofs).
I told her to think of all the math that applies to that problem (or any
problem involving two kids trying to figure something out that two kids
would want to figure out), and to teach that way. She told me that is
a *lot* of work, and I did not disagree.
So, that might take years.
In the meantime, there are always the math games we found, which might
help to exercise the kids' bodies, every 30 minutes, for a five-minute
J Burns wrote, on Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:11:42 -0400:
I almost never had to go to gym, because I was on sports year round.
So, I missed that experience.
However, if you've ever *smelled* the varsity locker room, you'll know
the meaning of "gym socks" all too well!
John Grossbohlin wrote, on Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:19:24 -0400:
Here's a quick four-sentence takeaway ...
1. Those classes were short, at only 1 hour and 15 minutes.
2. Students don't move about, once in class.
3. It's mostly lecture.
4. The kids are constantly chastised.
I did help her create some worksheets, as she was unfamiliar with
manipulating Microsoft Office to make graphs.
I ended up making tables, and it took a while to figure out how to make
the boxes the same with and length, and then how to add the x and y axis,
as I couldn't get the tables to "group" with the drawn axis even myself.
In the end, I gave up on Microsoft Word simply because I couldn't get the
non-groupable items to move together, as a single unit, when text was
So, I opted for PowerPoint, instead of Word, and made a few templates for
her for her worksheets. She put the kids in groups, and they moved the
chairs together (forcing them to stand up) and they worked together.
That gives the kids "some" exercise.
The kids can work in groups standing around the edge of the room,
working together at the "board" for instance (you suggested this was a
Keep them out of their chairs!!! What do they need chairs for? Perhaps
let them return to their chairs as a "reward" for finishing their work
do not wish to turn it into a race!) I think it works best if you
arrange the groups to consist of students of balanced ability--otherwise
the weakest and the strongest
students seem to end up in the same group. The idea is for the strong
students to help the weaker ones. BTDT.
On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:52:10 -0400, Stormin Mormon
It largely is/was since the 1970s. I saw it, i was there. About mid
decade the parental rebellion about no schools for performance started to
get results. So far only tokenism such as charter schools. Real reform
won't happen until the teachers unions are broken. Which requires a
society of responsibility for your actions. Not something to hold your
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