Ok, here's my problem. I have an el cheapo delta benchtop table saw. I want
to upgrade to a very precise, heavy duty contractors saw. I cannot afford a
cabinet saw and probably couldn't justify it for my hobby. I keep
researching saws and finding good deals either online or locally. No matter
how sweet the deal, I always find a negative review or comment about said
saw. So, someone PLEASE tell me the absolute perfect contractor table saw,
that I can run and buy before I hear anything negative about it. My budget
keeps lowering because now I HAVE to have a new jointer (new post later on
that topic). I can see spending $400-$450.
I just bought a new table saw. I read the reviews here and at:
Then I decided what features were important for me. Used my price range and
picked a saw. I think the important thing is focus on what features are
important and get the best fit you can. I don't think you can get
I upgraded from a Delta bench saw to a Grizzly G1022 contractor saw. It's
great! Having had the bench saw, I *really* appreciated the features of the
contractor saw -- large table top, accurate fence, standard miter slot
width, and the power to cut 3/4" plywood without bogging down.
Some of the first cuts I made with the G1022 was slicing thin crosscuts from
the end of a pine 2"x4" using the miter gauge. They weren't quite thin
enough to read through, but almost. <g> I was pretty excited. The Delta
bench saw couldn't get half that thin with the same carbide blade.
Vibrations would have the thin slice come off in chunks.
I thnk you'll be happy with whatever you get that's reasonable. It's a lot
like buying a pickup truck. Don't wait until everyone has agreed that GMC
is the only right one. <g>
I've read numerous bad comments about my Ridgid TS2424 here. I've also noted
that they were never posted by people that actually owned the saw. Personally,
I've had no complaints myself and would buy it again.
Am I trying to suggest that it's perfect? Hardly. No doubt someone with far
greater skills than mine could find something wrong with it, but it serves my
Decide what you want in a saw, and then look for one that provides it. You
aren't going to find perfection.
I recall recently reading a bunch of reviews of miter saw stands: I was
attracted to a Trojan 2000. Visiting a local store, I became unattracted when I
got to see a Delta stand already put together. I bought the Delta on the spot.
I already knew what aspects of the Delta made people bitch when I bought it, but
I am absolutely delighted with the thing. PITA to set up, but I'm past that, so
it's all good now.
Use those reviews judiciously.
Maybe, but they would probably find a lot more strengths in it also. In all
of out searches for the perfect tool that will cut the perfect edge we
forget that the skill of the operator is the final strength that determines
how well the job is done. A man with the right skill and knowledge can turn
out a board as square and straight with a hand saw and plane as any machine
or group of machines ever made can make. find a good tool learn how to use
it and it will do the job needed for you. (as long as it's not yellow IMHO
I've run a Ridgid TS2424 for way over 18 months now, and find it a very useful
saw, with a decent fence. Is the fence a Biese or HTC? No. But it's accurate,
easy to set, easy to adjust. Power transmission with the 5 groove pulley and
flexible belt is very smooth and efficient. It went together fairly
quickly--I'm not at all sorry to see the passing of the days when you had to
wire the motor and the switch yourself from a set of instructions that might
please Genghis Khan but no one else. Motor is a 13 amp, IIRC (haven't looked
for about a year) and works for most woods up to 6/4. It's a bit weak on 8/4
hardwoods like oak, but that's a characteristic of contractor's saws in
general, not the TS2424 in particular. Currently running a 24 tooth Freud glue
line rip blade, but also use the Freud F410 a lot. Could use a T miter slot,
but that's not a critical item for me.
Andexpecting to get a Ridgid TS3630 soon. I'm curious to see what changes have
been made (I see solid wings in the photos) other than fence width.
"A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other
way." Mark Twain
Even if I could afford a cabinet saw, I don't have the room! I'm
strongly considering the Delta 36-650. Lowes sells it for $499. It's
not left-tilt, and it doesn't have built-in dust collection, two
things I thought I wanted. But it seems pretty solid for the price.
See the below review for more info:
I have the 36-650, and I'm happy with it. Hell, I'd be happy with
anything after that old monkey wards 9" TS I will have waiting to be
But seriously, It is a good saw. I did quite a bit of research, and
wound up buying it locally at the farm supply store on sale. Take the
time to tune it up. I'm not sure of the blade that comes with it,
haven't done any heavy duty, long term cutting on it yet, just small
stuff. But hey, maybe I'll find a good deal at the woodworking show in a
couple of weeks.
Yep! That's life. Remember that 90% of the happy owners never log onto
Usenet and say "I'm so happy with my Acme Fribbitz Model 104!"
90% of the unhappy owners will logon and say "My Acme Fribbitz 104 is a
piece of dung!"
Let $$ be your guide. Go for "bang for buck" - pick the new Griz contractor
saw and be done with it.
anything built before 1970.
okay, that's a bit of an oversimplification. get under the hood and
look for cracked castings and excessive wear. assume you will have to
replace the fence, some belts and bearings, maybe make a mobile base
what I did for the fence was get a biesemeyer from their
scratch-n-dent website and make the rails from locally purchased
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 05:29:28 -0600, "HomeBrewer"
So, someone PLEASE tell me the absolute perfect contractor table saw,
The problem is there's no such thing. They all have strengths and
weaknesses, and no matter how popular any particular model is, each
one is sure to have a critic regarding certain specific issues, or
someone who had a bad customer service experience, etc. So forget
about a perfect saw.
Fortunately, you don't need a perfect saw. You just need a good one
that will accomplish what you want it to do, be of reasonably good
quality, with reasonable accuracy, ease of use and features, at a
reasonable price. The good news is that saws of this type are
plentiful, and you have several to choose from. Take a look at a
mid-level Jet, Delta, Powermatic contractor saw, and, perhaps,
Grizzly. You are unlikely to go too far wrong with any of the first
three, and, to a lesser extent, the fourth. Choose one that is within
your budget. You can always upgrade individual aspects (such as the
fence, a critical component) as your requirements change.
Alternatively, you can always sell one of these saws and upgrade to a
better one without taking too much of a beating on depreciation if you
maintain it well.
In short, don't obsess over it (this is not a criticism; I've done it
too). Just go choose a saw from a reputable manufacturer within your
budget. Buy the best one of these you can afford. Within these
parameters, it doesn't really matter that much which one you choose.
It's more important that you just get one and start cutting wood with
Also, try not to look back too much and second-guess yourself. Just
enjoy your new saw. Good luck with your choice. You're about to
purchase a tool which will bring you many hours of joy.
I bought my used Unisaw (1985, three phase, mint condition, only drawback
being the Jetlock fence) for $400. Found it on ebay and it was 20 miles from
my house and on my way home from work. You can find one if you're patient.
Ok, I did it - I searched and searched - and I bought a saw. The Ridgid
TS3650 Table Saw from HD. I got it out of the door for $530, with a coupon I
had. I just got it put together and adjusted late last night and can't wait
to rip a board today. Now, let 's hear the negative stuff about this
saw...Let me have it!
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