Ease in I think it's going to be. After a lot of thought (and 'some' good
advice here), I've decided to start small and work my way up. First items
are a small pad in the crawlspace and install the dust collection system,
table saw and a router or two. That ought to keep me busy for a month or
two and get me well on the way to butchering some wood :). If I use those
tools as a stepping stone (e.g. building jigs, some cabinets for the
garage, Etc.) maybe I'll learn enough in the process to take myself out of
the 'seen it a thousand times, but never done it' category.
My thanks for the advice, it is truly appreciated,
You've got that right, Bob. I just add a little at a time, but I must
have over $30,000 into my little shop at this point- and it's not even
the nicest one in town (though it is getting pretty respectable at
this point). That's not to discourage anyone, of course- you hardly
notice it when it goes out of your wallet in $80-150 chunks with big
purchases spread out a bit.
OTOH, sometimes (though not enough to quit my day job) I make a tidy
short-term profit from that shop in the basement. Even though I doubt
I'll recoup the entire investment anytime soon, it sure does help out
to be able to make an extra couple thousand bucks every now and then-
and that's something that wouldn't have been possible if I had spent
all that woodworking investment down at the local tavern every Friday.
Everything has an opportunity cost to it- at least with this hobby,
you've got a pile of tools and hopefully some nice projects to show
for your effort. Most other recreational activities can't make the
$30K on tools 'n stuff? That's some "hobby." That's what I attempted to
point out to the OP who alleges that he wants to start out "on the
cheap" but his punch list of tools 'n stuff reads like a professional
cabinet shop's inventory.
Bully for you, though!
Well, sort of a hobby. But I'm a carpenter/cabinetmaker by trade, so
I try and keep my home shop at or near the tooling level I'm
accustomed to at work. Gotta do something with my overtime money, and
I'm hoping to stop having a boss to worry about at some point in the
not so distant future. But the same logic applies to someone looking
to do it as a serious hobby- it's a whole lot more fun if you're not
fighting your tools, and if you buy your stuff a little bit at a time
it doesn't hurt the wallet too badly. I couldn't imagine trying to
get everything at one time- my checkbook would probably have a stroke,
and I'd be eating nothing but sawdust for a year or two.
And of course, there's the enjoyment aspects of woodworking. I've yet to
find a recreational enjoyment that makes me money. Since my woodworking
falls into the category of something I enjoy, I don't ever really expect to
make money from it, not in the long term anyway. The occasional profit made
from small projects only goes to amplify the enjoyment I get from
Bob.. I'll let the others fight the brand wars....
Just wanted to say that I've been playing with woodworking for about 50 years
and still want a few things on your list "someday".. lol
One thing you MUST apply to any purchase is a lot of research and
thought. If space is at all limited then think about the capabilities
of each power tool you buy. Examples: a decent router with table can
also double as a joitner thereby removing the need for the dedicated
jointer; a drill press will accommodate a full set of drum sanding
bits and lessen the need for a drum sander or a belt/disc sander.
Again, one thing I would recommend to any wrecker is some kind of dust
extraction system, even if its only a wet/dry vac hooked up to the
tool. You will never regret a (relatively) dust-free workspace.
Router table is probably the worst way of jointing boards. It can not face
joint, a far more needed application than edge jointing. They are generally
far to small to be very useful on edges. Assuming a good tablesaw is at
hand, edge jointing on a router table is of no use, the tablesaw can do it
better. As for face jointing, a hand plane will do that and much more.
> Examples: a decent router with table can
I've been following that path recently. :)
Let me add to that list of exmaples and follow-up with a couple of
tips . . .
Get one of those table saw sanding discs and two pieces of
adhesive sand paper. I have the one from one Woodcraft. It cost
me about $26 total (including the sand paper).
For those of you out there that have these devices and already know
this, you're probably going to be thinking to yourselves, "Duh,
that's obvious!". But for me, it was one of those eureka moments
that only occured to me *after* I got the stuff home and I was
getting ready to try it out. :) Here's the tips:
1) You can put the adhesive sand paper on *both* sides of the
disc! I put a 60 grit piece on one side and 120 grit on the other.
In this way I could rough shape things with the 60G side, and then
flip it over and smooth it out. This is why you should get two
pieces of adhesive sand paper. :)
2) Given the costs of these discs, if you need additional grit
options, just buy another disc and two more pieces of adhesive
paper. No need to pull the paper off the disc, just change or flip
the disc over. So for about $52 you can have two discs and four
different grit options.
: http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid 09
I'm probably in a similar situation. I've had some home-reno type tools
for a while, and am now finally in a place where I can set up a small shop.
My first suggestion is to start with a specific project, then buy the
tools that you need to build that project.
For the first few years I used a circular saw and a straight edge for
sheet goods. If you have a very good saw and blade, you might not need
the router for final trimming.
I then upgraded to a very old 9" Rockwell contractor's saw, which I used
for a couple years. Finally this past year I got a bonus at work and
spent it on a General International cabinet saw.
You will want outfeed support. For cutting sheet goods on the table saw
(without pre-cutting into manageable chunks with the circular saw) you
need side extension and maybe an infeed support as well. This takes a
*lot* of space.
Still don't have one myself. A jigsaw will do some of what a bandsaw
can do, but of course can't resaw.
Don't have one yet. A friend has a 6" one.
Same friend as above has a 12" lunchbox planer.
Got a cheap (but decent) one last year when it went on sale. Made do
with a hand drill until that point.
I have a single router with two bases, one of which drops into the
table. Bought a cheap set of bits at a wood show, and buy good bits as
Have a 10" single bevel non-slider. Works for most stuff I need.
Anything bigger goes on the crosscut sled on the table saw. Anything
too large for the sled (which has 14" capacity) gets cut with the
straightedge and circular saw.
You don't have sanders, finishing spay guns, compressor, or any fans, vents,
or such on your list. I presume this is just an oversight for posting to
Just remember one advise from FWW -- "Beginners focus on making wooden
things, after a year or so, everyone focuses on making customers." No mater
how well built, the finish and how the whole projects looks is what sells.
You will be selling items that cost way more than Wal-Mart. The buyer wants
to feel they are getting something for their money, even if it just bragging
rights to 'hand-craftsmanship.' The more 'intangibles' you can offer to a
customer, the easier the sell.
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