I'm new here, so do not know the group rules. I'm also pretty new to DIY
homeowner stuff. I need to install some handicap bars and step rails and
refurbish a badly weathered deck. I'm not without some experience, having
worked as a novice carpenter decades ago. I have most carpenter hand tools
and a couple circular saws.
I need to do some work that once would have been the domain of the jig saw,
a tool I'm familiar with, but these new roto-zip saws intrigue me. I need
to notch some step boards on the deck and cut out a section of some 1-1/8"
thk verniered particle board. Should I go with the older jig saw or would I
be better served, in the long run, by the newer spiral saw technology,
assuming I can't afford both tools. Thank you.
The Rotozip was originally developed to cut sheet rock/dry wall cut outs.
It has been marketed as a do it all tool but in all seriousness it does not
perform well on any material harder than sheetrock/ or drywall.
A jig saw would be a better choice and will work on a variety of harder
materials than sheetrock. Consider also a Fein Multimaster. These
particular is expensive however there are 3 or 4 "clones" out there that are
much more reasonable in price. IIRC Bosch, Dremel, and Harbor Freight make
their own versions.
:> I:> be better served, in the long run, by the newer spiral saw technology,:> assuming I can't afford both tools. Thank you.
: The Rotozip was originally developed to cut sheet rock/dry wall cut outs.
: It has been marketed as a do it all tool but in all seriousness it does not
: perform well on any material harder than sheetrock/ or drywall.
: A jig saw would be a better choice and will work on a variety of harder
: materials than sheetrock.
Second the recommendation of the jig saw. Also, the blades you use make an
difference. I've been vry impressed with Bosch's new line of Xtra Clean For
(T308B). Here's a review:
You can get them from Amzon (and probably locally if you're in a city).
-- Andy Barss
I have seen these blades, have you used Bosh blades in the past? Do these
cut cleaner than the older Bosch styles? I only use Bosch blades and pretty
much get a burnished smooth surface on hard woods using the regular Bosch
blades, fine cut, with a Milwaukee jig saw. I get a "little" tear out on
the top side when cross cutting Oak veneer plywood.
I haven't yet tried the new Bosch, but I have used the older ones. I'm
fairly sure the guys at PopWood have used Bosch blades before and they
seem pretty impressed with the Xtra Clean ones. All other reviews have
been positive as well (just do a google search).
:> Second the recommendation of the jig saw. Also, the blades you use make :> an enormous:> difference. I've been vry impressed with Bosch's new line of Xtra Clean :> For Wood blades:> (T308B). Here's a review:
: I have seen these blades, have you used Bosh blades in the past? Do these
: cut cleaner than the older Bosch styles? I only use Bosch blades and pretty
: much get a burnished smooth surface on hard woods using the regular Bosch
: blades, fine cut, with a Milwaukee jig saw. I get a "little" tear out on
: the top side when cross cutting Oak veneer plywood.
My impression is that they do cut cleaner, although I haven't used them enough
in a direct comparison to be 100% sure. I've used the new ones mostly in pine
(my son's a cub scout, and I was doing the cuting for the boys in a pack meeting
last week). The new blades leave a finish that's smoother than a Timberwolf
blade on my 14" bandsaw, with essentially no tearout (I was expecting the
pine to tear out on the top). The different may be more apprent with softwoods
than with hardwood.
Jigsaw. Bosch offers a neat package with a 5 amp D-Handle saw that
comes with a Random Orbital 5" sander. It was selling up here in
Canuckistan for $ 149.00 for the pair.
Those RotoTools are useless. If you want one of those, go to a pawn-
shop and pick one up for next-to-nothing... there's a reason they're
Since the Fein patent expired late last year, others have duplicated the
tool. Harbor Freight, Dremel, Bosch, and others make a replacement tool -
and all the blades between manufacturers are interchangable.
I FINALLY talked to someone that used the Rockwell Sonicrafter. He
He is the manager of a local lumber yard, and they sell the full line
of the Rockwell branded tools. He does a lot of general stuff, but
doesn't use his tools full time.
He told me that his BIL has one these things (bought from him of
course!) and he does a lot of contract repair work. He loves the
machine and it has a permanent place in the truck.
I asked him about the overall view of the Rockwell brand. He says
that in a year or so, they haven't had but one tool come back because
of a defect (battery). According to him, the contractors he sells the
tools to think that the tools are solid and well priced.
He admitted the sales were slow, but attributed that to the fact that
little advertisement is done outside trade mags or the normal wood/DIY
mags. The public doesn't have much awareness of the revamped brand.
On another note, I received a DeWalt rotary tool for Christmas about 5
years ago. I used it one day... I have no idea what to do with it.
Since LOML gave it to me, I cannot sell or trade it.
You would think doing all the repairs and remodel stuff I do it would
be invaluable, but the only time I used it was when I was setting some
tile myself and wanted to cut some holes in the tile. I would stay
away from a rotary unless you have identified a task that only that
tool can perform.
I bought a Roto-Zip type tool thinking I would use it for all kinds of
home remodeling jobs but as others have stated it doesn't do all that
much very well. What I did find it useful for was cutting holes in a
lath and plaster ceiling to install recessed light cans. I burned up a
couple of carbide bits and made all kinds of dust but didn't have a
lot of patching to do (house built in 1938). It also does a decent job
on ceramic tile with a carbide bit for enlarging holes and trimming
odd shapes and of course cutting out holes in drywall with the proper
bit. My personal experience is that it doesn't cut through wood
thicker than say 1/4". I would choose a jigsaw or Sawzall-type saw as
being more useful. I don't have any experience with the Fein-type
multitasker though they look intriguing.
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