Hi Folks,
For all who are interested and/or curious. I put the Wixey Digital Angle Gauge to the test in my Metrology Lab this week. Results are here:
Enjoy!
Ed Bennett snipped-for-privacy@ts-aligner.com
Interesting - thanks for the review. Everything I've heard about this little gauge has been positive! One comment, since you asked... The page linked above doesn't fit properly with either browser I tried (Firefox 2.0.0.1 or Safari 2.0.4, both for Mac OSX). The text and photos are laid out much to wide for the browser window, so I have to scroll side to side to read each line. Don't know anything about web design, so I can't suggest what might be wrong, but I thought I'd provide some user feedback. Thanks again, Andy
Me too. (I'm on Linux/Firefox). I think the background art is the problem.
It's really a pain to have to scroll right and left several tiimes just to read a couple of lines.
Similar issue with Firefox 1.5.0.11. Opened with IE, and it wraps the text for the width or the window.
I don't know squat about html, either, but suspect this page is using some non-standard IE-specific way of formatting text.
Looking at the source, I found the following hint as to possibly why:
Meant to add: both in winXP
is probably the culprit.
My day job is connected to web geeking. I see a page this bad (abused , , ) and I really can't bear to look at it. Post a link to c.i.w.a.h / alt.html.critique and you might get some suggestions or even a makeover.
Nice review Ed...
I got your tool and my get > Hi Folks,
Bullshit ... as with most woodworking, it's not the tool, it's the operator.
Well, I certainly agree with you on ultimate responsibility. And I'm sure there are lots of well-bahaved sites created with front page. But I also suspect that it is much easier to create IE-specific non-standard html in frontpage than in many other authoring tools.
But this is just speculation, subject to change based on comments from web authoring experts. One has posted here pretty much confirming my suspicion.
Well, a former "web authoring" expert, who was on the beta before VM FP 1.0 was released some 14 years ago, long before MSFT and most of today's "web authoring experts" could spell "www", still says bullshit.
It's a tool, and like any other tool that is perhaps too easy to use in the hands of the plentiful and ubiquitous dufus of today, it is often misused ... and, just like in woodworking, irrational kneejerks will continue to blame the tool because of the brand.
Ditto ... please don't misconstrue the "dufus" remark in my previous, it was not intended to include either of us. :)
Looking at the original earlier, that is exactly what appeared to be the cause.
Sorry folks.
Yes, it's the operator. Yes, I use FrontPage. No, it doesn't produce pretty-perfect code. But, I just don't have the time to muddle around hand coding everything. And, I've seen some pretty ugly (and mostly non-functional) hand coded pages too. Bottom line, I'm responsible for the code on my site no matter how I decide to generate it. So, I apologize for the mishap.
There are a whole bunch of photos showing the results of each angle test. I wanted a way to give people easy access to them without forcing everyone to go through each photo. So, I used a FrontPage photo gallery. I re-did the page using smaller photos (for those who wish to view the page using a 640x480 display) and corrected an oversight in the table definition (a fixed width when it should have been variable).
Try it now and let me know if it works any better.
Thanks, Ed Bennett snipped-for-privacy@ts-aligner.com
No problem. I think the original was offered in the spirit of alerting you to something you probably weren't aware of; I know mine was.
That didn't fix it. I'll email you a jpg of my desktop with he same page opened in identically sized Firefox and IE windows, so you can see what is happening. Text is not wrapping correctly.
Thanks for the review. I think I need one of those in my shop so long as it doesn't take up any floor space.
Of course they did ... and you knew that before you posted the question. But then, so did Netscape. IIRC, at the time there was no reasons to not to, and all for the most practicial of reasons, reasons that were at the time in the spirit of the original specification - to solve immediate problems with a new medium.
That said, many of those reasons have now grown to a signifcance that rivals that of relgious fundamentalism.
About the only time I've ever seen any browser I use, and I've used them all, to "not read a page" at all was with bullshit like "Flash" ... much worse than MSFT ever was in subverting the www HTML spirit, IMO.
I don't really don't use IE, except as a check when I do my little ww web page these days, mostly I use FF by choice. All my FP webs have always been read handily by any browser I use since day 1.
There is simply no excuse in blaming the tool if they don't.
I have a 1400x1050 monitor (Firefox 1.5.0.10/Linux), and the page
I have my default font set to "16"
In this particular case it may have been operator error. But do you deny that in the interest of "productizing" Microsoft has added several nonstandard "extensions" to the HTML generated by Front Page?
The original statement that use of FP made it more likely that other browsers could not read a page so generated was and is true. It's happened all too often. It even happened way back when IE and Netscape were the only choices.
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Fixed it for me. I'm using Firefox 1.0.6 with Slackware Linux 10.1.
--=20 It's turtles, all the way down
FWIW...
I enjoyed your test and can care less what the page looked like. It got the information across.
If folks want to see what a REALLY basic page can look like, try this:
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