Yeah. A totally sterile with out compassion and with out personality news group. Naw, I'll pass.
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19 years ago
Yeah. A totally sterile with out compassion and with out personality news group. Naw, I'll pass.
Bob Schmall states:
That's true, but why does he use this group as his 'founding' excuse/alibi/rationale?
You'd think that if things here bothered him as much as his proposal says, he'd have popped up somewhere complaining about them. The only reference I could find was his application for a new group.
Sort of like the '60s, "What If They Gave A War And Nobody Came?"
Charlie Self "Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Sir Winston Churchill
Who cares?
Bob Alfred North Whitehead: There are no whole truths; all truths are half truths. It is trying to treat them as whole truths that plays the devil.
Right now it's just at the discussion stage. If it actually moves to the CFV (Call For Votes) stage I'll be surprised.
But it will have little effect on this news group, regardless of the outcome.
djb
This off-topic thread wouldn't exist on a moderated newsgroup.
Has a single person here said they would migrate ?
Any thread that pertains to this particular newsgroup as a whole is on topic.
That's not relevant to the *process* of creating a new newsgroup in the "big 8" hierarchy (which includes rec.*)
It doesn't matter if anyone who frequents this newsgroup supports the proposed new group or not.
It's been a while, what is the criteria for moving from the request for comment to call for vote? Also, what is the required number of votes for new group creation to pass?
Well, not quite nobody. This could be a place where he and Cody Hart will have their own world free of slanderous remarks :)
Mark & Juanita wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
The proponent may call the vote any time after the minimum 21-day discussion period. If there are technical problems with the proposal, one or more RFDs might be submitted by the proponent before he/she requests the CFV (Call For Votes). However, this is entirely up to the proponent. If the proponent answers most of the questions in the RFD, he/she is not required to change anything. It does increase the chance of passing the group if at least a second RFD is done, though it is not required. RFDs after the first one have a minimum 10-day discussion period.
The voting period lasts 21 days. In order for a group to pass, two things must happen:
Examples of passing voter outcomes:
YES: 100 NO: 0
YES: 101 NO: 1
YES: 300 NO: 150
Examples of failing voter outcomes:
YES: 100 NO: 1
YES: 99 NO: 2
YES: 299 NO: 150
"Mark L." wrote in news:brP0d.1037$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
Generally, those interested in reading the group should vote "yes". If you are not planning to use the group, the right thing is to either not vote, or to write "abstain" on the ballot. If you want a moderated woodworking group, but feel that the proponent has not fixed any major technical problems in the proposal, you should vote "no". You shouldn't vote "no" if you simply have no interest in a moderated woodworking group. It is complicated, but any news.groups regular will tell you the same thing. The CFV is an interest poll..to see if there are enough interested parties to justify creating the new group.
At the end of the CFV, the names/handles of all voters, with e-mail addresses (munged) and whether they voted "yes", "no", or "abstain" will be published and posted to all newsgroups on the distribution list. The results will be posted right here in the wreck.
Art ~
I'm with you 100%. I would like to point out that rec.crafts.woodturning is unmoderated and just about all the posts relate to the use of the lathe, with very few of the inane topics that appear in this ng.
Perhaps it is because woodturning is more of an art than "flat woodworking" and a somewhat higher class of people are attracted to it.
Peace ~ Sir Edgar =F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8= =F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8
Maybe Cody Hart is one of the proposed moderators...in drag?
- - LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
Nah. They're just trying to recapture their early childhood experiences with the teacher's pencil sharpener. Oooooow! Neat... the wood just turns into shavings..
I understand that. There are hundreds of newsgroups out there with similar sounding names but no posters. They sit empty, devoid of any content other than that of spammers who shotgun the system.
I doubt the new one is going to be successful. Generally speaking, there would have to be a need for the change, and nobody here has seen one. Is there a group of folks out there so horrified by our present group that they refuse to participate with us and would only go to a moderated newsgroup?
Do you guys remember a troll threatening to do exactly this, not so long ago? It's not worth a response really, if it had been someone who was serious about it, they'd be answering some of the comments..
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Those of us that don't do turning are therefore low class? Hey Edgar, drop the Sir. You are too full of yourself.
I'm with you 100%. I would like to point out that rec.crafts.woodturning is unmoderated and just about all the posts relate to the use of the lathe, with very few of the inane topics that appear in this ng.
Perhaps it is because woodturning is more of an art than "flat woodworking" and a somewhat higher class of people are attracted to it.
Peace ~ Sir Edgar
Mister Ed: Or perhaps the turning group is so small that it attracts a less than critical mass of opinions. You've drifted into rec.woodworking with these simplistic opinions before. Has anyone kept you from expressing them? No? That's our strength here- a free exchange of ideas.
Bob
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