On 14 Jan 2005 07:12:16 -0800, " email@example.com"
i have no idea but i would not consider either science diet or pro
plan to be "high end".
if you want the switch to be worth your money, switch to something
like innova, canidae, wellness. you will feed much much less food, so
the cost difference really isn't that much, and your dogs will look
and feel much better.
my best friend is a pit bull.
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This is just from my personal observations. I am no expert of dog diets or
health or anything like that.
We normally buy Science Diet for Moogli (10 lb shih-tzu/min. schnauzer
mix). For whatever reason, when we went to buy SD the last time, there was
none left, so we bought some Beneful (he really liked it as a puppy). The
differences were remarkable. First, his poops are bigger, smellier and
softer. Second, his bowl is getting to be more of a mess. He is picky with
the 3 or 4 kinds of kibble in Beneful, and will spread out the ones that he
want, shoving his face deep into his bowl to try to get at the ones that he
wants. His energy level is about the same, but he seems to be more,
unfocussed is the closest I can get to the term. He also eats more of the
Beneful, so while it is cheaper, the bag doesn't last as long.
my dog will not eat Science Diet. I even tried the new stuff, Science Diet
Nature or something like that. He won't touch the stuff. He eats Pro Plan
currently though I didn't consider this high end and wanted to switch to
something better. Now, I am not sure.
is there anyone out there that can recommend a food for him? stick with pro
plan? switch to something else?
1) Science Diet and Pro Plan are *not* "high end" dog foods. they're the
same old stuff in a fancy package.
2) you're right. your vet is pushing Science Diet on you because he sells
it, and because his "nutritional training" (if he got any), came from
Hill's, the maker of Science Diet.
i usually recommend these high end, pricy foods, with fancy ingredients and
all that. we're currently feeding Pinnacle Trout and Sweet Potato (sounds
like something you'd get in a fancy restaurant doesn't it?). but then one
of my dogs gets rashes and licks herself like crazy if she eats corn or
wheat products. the first few ingredients are:
Trout, Oatmeal, Toasted Oats, Herring Meal, Oat Flour, Canola Oil, Sweet
Potato, Calcium Carbonate, Flax Seed, Lecithin, Grapeseed Oil
but honestly, if your dog is thriving, if he's healthy, happy, and
energetic... you might as well just keep feeding what you're feeding him.
not a vet.
i feed my dog (part poodle part shnouzer) pedigree, and he has had a healthy
life, he is 14 now. he has had some joint decline but i give him joint
medicine now and pedigree for senior dogs. just about any dog food will do
just as good as long as you care for him in other ways too, like brush his
teeth, give him vitamins, etc.
Dog foods like Science Diet and Pro Plan are only marginally better than
Pedigree and Alpo. It's all junk.
Yes, food can have an effect on behavior. Maybe somebody who has more
thoroughly researched that end of it can chime in with some examples (I've
heard that cutting down on protein can calm an overly-hyper dog, but wouldn't
swear to it).
If you're looking for a good food, you have to look for foods that (1) contain
human grade ingredients, (2) use fresh meat as the protein source, (3) aren't
mostly filler with just a smidgen of meat, (4) use whole grains.
In PetsMart, there's only one food I'd recommend - Blue. Maybe Royal Canin.
The other decent foods can be found in feed stores, grooming shops, dog
bakeries, but not in retail chains.
Though there is another poster who disagrees with me <waves :>, I like this:
http://chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com . It's a good food at a reasonable
price, and fairly easy to find.
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