Plywood trade

[Sonny]

I think it would be impractical to try to heat or cool that large of building any time soon, especially for their circumstances. It won't be used as a dedicated wood shop, but will accommodate several shop functions. As per the work benches, I've suggest, at least for the time being, one side of the shop for woodwork or general related work and the other side for mechanics and related work. I'm keeping an eye out, on the auctions, for a flammables cabinet.

They won't be farming, per se, but Jennifer likes to ride and wants a few horses and a few other country/farm animals. They will probably replace the chicken coup/shed, also..... a few weeks ago Jennifer had duckling hatch and the vegetable garden looks nice.

The old barn was demolished and a new one will be built, later. The whole of the farmstead needs a facelift, so all is a work in progress and I like the prospect of lending a hand with some of those efforts. Channon has his own ideas of using the salvaged barn wood for some of the house remodel and for further pool house remodel and I look forward to assisting with those projects, also.

Sonny

[krw]

As I said, I really didn't like my shop being "outdoors", I know some (Leon?) roll their shop out into the driveway to work. I did, for a while, but _really_ didn't like it. I didn't have a lot of time to work and not being able to at all for six months of the year wasn't good.

Tax reasons? ("gentlemen farmers")

Yeah, that's going to be hard to heat.

[Leon]

Nope, Swingman.

[DerbyDad03]

And DerbyDad03, to some extent.

My (really small) shop is in the basement but my planer and tools for breaking down sheet goods are in my garage (which hasn't seen any kind of car except for Soap Box Derby cars in 30+ years).

I'll admit that a few flurries have landed on my planer and that I've had to wear a heavy jacket on more than a few occasions. You do what you have to do...

[DerbyDad03]

When we were moving my daughter into her house last November, the neighbor was having her roof replaced. The neighbor came over to introduce herself but I think she also needed someone to vent to.

She told us that the roofer invoked the "Scope of Work" clause, to the tune of about $3K, ~25% of the contracted price. The roofer (supposedly) didn't know that the roof had been skipped sheathed until they starting ripping the old roof off. That's when he told her that she had 2 options:

1 - Pay $3K for the labor and materials to have his crew sheath the roof with plywood, or 2 - Forgo any warranty on the roof.

What doubly pissed her off was all the scrap material she saw in the dumpster at the end of the day. I gotta admit, some of the "cutoffs" did seem pretty big, like maybe a more efficient layout could have been employed, but that's not for me to say.

[krw]

Or calculating the optimum cuts would cost more in labor (the dufus on the roof probably didn't have the skills) than the plywood _was_ worth.

[DerbyDad03]

Oh, and there was a quite of number of dufuses on the roof at this job. At least 2 Home Depot runs worth.

The next day I saw the homeowner talk "No. Plumbers have to be licensed by the city so we list those who are registered. It's a not a recommendation list, but at least the homeowner knows that the plumber meets the city's requirements. Roofers don't have to be licensed so there's no list on our website. However, if you promise not to tell anyone, I can tell you who I like and who I don't."

The first company on her "do not like" list was the roofer that did the job I mentioned above. She said that the city has received a lot of complaints about them but there is not much that the city can do. Unfortunately, anybody with a ladder and half a hammer can roof in the city. A true case of buyer beware.

[krw]

That's pretty much true everywhere. *Many* houses in our neighborhood have had their roofs replaced this year. Note that these houses were built in 2006-2008 and all have "architect's" shingles. The shingles should be good for another eight to ten years, if the contractor did a crap job.

One neighbor had a drive-by roofer tell them that it looked like they had hail damage and they'd do a free inspection, promising that if they did find problems that their insurance company would pay to replace the roof. Of course they did find damage and for days after, shingles were raining down from the roof. The insurance company told them to get lost but they decided to hire the same company to replace the roof. They still believe they got a good deal. I've seen the same roofer on at least a dozen houses around the neighborhood (of

70ish homes).

I told my wife that if *anyone* came around and wanted to get on the roof that my shotgun was under the bed.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Four insurance companies in Florida are dropping 50,000 homes, mostly for roof reasons. Others are insisting roofs over only 12 years old be replaced to continue coverage

[J. Clarke]

Here's a little bit of background:

[krw]

I've heard that insurance fraud is rampant in Florida. I can't really blame the insurance companies. I hope I don't have to replace mine soon.