I just purchased a Performax 16-32 from Amazon. The first one
arrived and had a small dent in the ventilation shroud on the drum
motor. I didn't think too much of it until I assembled the unit, powered
it up for the first time, ran a few boards through it, and noticed that
the motor seemed very weak. In fact, it started to pop its circuit
breaker, unless I just barely removed any wood during each pass.
I called Amazon and requested a replacement, which they sent, and I
assembled and tested again today. Again, the motor seemed very wimpy,
popping the circuit breaker again, unless I fed the boards through it in
an almost delicate manner.
Most of my tools are 220 volt, heavy duty and not what I would
describe as requiring wood to be fed delicately into or through. This
16-32 sander just does not seem right to me.
Can any of the sander users comment on how beefy or delicate their
sanders are? I'm wondering if either I am too 'heavy handed' with it, or
if I have received another defective motor.... hmmm ?
Thanks in advance again.
Matt, I have the same machine and it does trip the internal breaker if you
take to deep a bite. I use it only for sanding not as a thickness planer.
Slow the feed rate and take smaller bites, you will grow to enjoy its many
I have the original paper in there right now. I tried 120 grit on the first
Performax they sent me, and it did not seem to change its performance
noticeably. What grits have you used and have you noticed differences in the
circuit popping with any particular grit?
Matt, I use the 80 or 120 for sanding veneers. If you slow the feed rate
down to much the sander will burn or burnish the wood if you are trying to
take to big a bite. The older models do not have the same over-current
protection. They only have a thermal overload protection.
I am assuming you are using an adequate dust collection system, if not the
belt will clog and burn very fast.
Just to resolve the issue of , is it a bad motor, I tested the amp draw up
to the time it tripped the internal pop-up breaker. 13 amps +/-. I'd say
the breaker did its job.
I really don't want the motor to drag, dim the shop lights, smoke, burn the
wood before I realize I have taken to deep a bite. Scott is correct, 1/4 to
1/3 a turn is all you need. If you need more, get a surface planer or
15 amp breaker in wall, but the little pop up circuit breaker on the motor is
popping. I am having to sand off about 1/100th of an inch at a time on a 6 inch
wide piece of quartersawn white oak.
I wonder if the Delta gives the same results.... I know it's only 1.5 hp motor,
but for some reason, it doesn't feel right to me.
Anyone with the Delta have this complaint?
James D Kountz wrote:
This is just wrong and I dont care what Performax or anyone else tells you.
You can absolutely take more than 1/100th of an inch on a 6" wide piece of
oak. My 16-32 would eat that for breakfast, lunch and dinner and beg for
desert. I just did some 24"x36" Purpleheart panels taking between 1/4 and
1/2 turn using 120 grit and it took them right on down.No problem. My motor
is a Leeson too by the way. Now if Performax changed the motor I would say
based on what other folks here have said, thats you're problem. I believe
another owner with a Leeson motor stated his performed better than this too.
So there you go, get from it what you will but if it were me Id have my
It sounds like they've changed the motor. My year or so old 16-32 has
a lousy Asian Baldor (insulation class A). Baldor must rightfully be
embarrassed about this motor since their name isn't on it. The only
reason I know it's a Baldor is because it was replaced once under
warranty and came in a Baldor box.
I'd expect a class F Leeson to perform a whole lot better.
Scott Post firstname.lastname@example.org http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost /
I have two of these units. Motors appear to be the same as yours -- 14 amp,
made in Taiwan. The only time I've experienced what you're talking about
(tripping the reset button) is when the motor has overheated from long
periods of use or trying to take too big of a bite or working with clogged
sandpaper. One thing I have learned to do is what Performax recommends and
that is to insert the piece I am going to sand under the drum with it shut
off and lower the drum to where you can just hear the sandpaper tic on the
piece when you turn the drum by hand before you start sanding the piece.
This will prvent a lot of the starting trips, gouging and burning that can
result from trial and error feeding. If you do this, run the board through
the unit at this setting to insure you don't have high spots and from this
point you should be able to sand oak, maple,etc in 1/4 turn increments with
80 - 150 grit paper without any problems. Harder woods like bloodwood are
another matter. What I can remove in one pass on oak will take 5 passes on
bloodwood.. If you follow this procedure and are still having problems you
probably have a motor problem.
Wow, something strange is going on. I have a six year old 16-32 + that has
never trip the breaker. If fact, until I read this thread I didn't even
know that there was a breaker. I wonder if the motor has changed since I
When I first purchased the unit I took way to much off in each pass and it
never complained. One time I took about 1/16th off a 16" x 54" cherry panel
and it did fine until the high spot in the middle. The machine kept
chugging and I finally shut it off. My only problem with the unit is
burning the sandpaper if I don't watch it.
Good luck - Bob McBreen
The motor only has a Performax label on it. It's 14 amps and it's made in
If this is the same machine that has been getting rave reviews from everyone,
I'd be very surprised.
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Ditto with my new Performax 10-20: tripped when I tried
(inadvertently) to take off about 1/8" at one time. That's what the
planer is for. The sander is pretty slick for taking off 1/64 or 1/32
though, and having thickness-sanded a few classical guitars the old
fashioned way, the Performax is a welcome addition to my shop, doing
in seconds what used to take me hours by hand!
First off, I love my 16-32.
On the issue of the motor circuit tripping, I've had mine for over 3 years
now. The first 2 years, the circuit breaker on the motor may have tripped
once or twice. Now days, it seems if I look at it, it will trip, doesn't
even have to be plugged in!!! Okay, that may be stretching it a bit,
I think I can rule out the power getting to the unit as a reason. I can run
my DC and other large machines on the same circuit, most of them have larger
motors drawing more amps, and never a problem.
Even if I sand thin strips, the motor over heats. I am fairly certain if I
just power it up, not feed anything through it, the motor *will* get warm,
and the circuit on the motor eventually trips. Under use, it trips sooner.
I've been thinking it's a faulty motor, now this thread tells me the problem
is more universal, and not just my unit. Now I'm back to square one
wondering what gives???
Sawdust buildup in the motor housing, perhaps? You said that didn't happen
when it was new...
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
Appreciate the stated possibility.
I could/should have stated I have my DC hooked up, and what dust that thing
doesn't suck off, including the paint, I also blow out the inside of the
unit thoroughly and often with air pressure. Nor does it matter which grit
of sand paper I have installed. And, the drum spins *very* freely by hand,
and takes forever to come to a halt after cutting the power to it. Taking
all that into consideration, with my other comments in my earlier post,
makes me think I definitely have a faulty motor.
I've sent my local supplier an email asking if he has had any other customer
make similar complaints.
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