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I posted a link to that one on Facebook earlier yesterday. One can only imagine how badly it could have gone if she hadn't been armed.

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Steve Turner

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It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she defended herself, but now she has killed somebody. The guy may have needed it, but I suspect that she is pretty much traumatized over it. She certainly didn't look very happy on the news last night.

Bill

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Bill Gill

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>>>> It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she

Better traumatized than most of the possible alternatives I can think of.

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Steve Turner

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>>>> It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she

Horseshit!

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Swingman

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>> It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she

Bah! Killing people in self-defense is a mind-altering, but satisfying, life event.

Shooting team interviewer: "So, then, officer your statement is 'The suspect raced down the hallway with me in pursuit. He turned into a bedroom and from a lower drawer on the dresser pulled a large-caliber weapon and pointed it in my direction. I, in fear of my life, discharged my service weapon.' Is that a fair and accurate summary of the events you experienced?"

Cop: "Exactly. Like I said: He went for his piece and I smoked him!"

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HeyBub

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>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she

I agree with Steve. Life is traumas, and her husband had just died around Christmas, so how do know if she would've looked any different on camera if she'd just wounded the guy?

Taking a human life is a horrible thing but that guy chose to die that day when he chose to break and enter the home of another person.

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>>> Yeah, I posted a link to that one on Facebook earlier yesterday. One can

Hopefully the AHoles relatives will no come after her for some kind of compensation.

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Leon

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>>>> It doesn't sound good for mom to me. Granted she

It is sad but probably the best out come whether she realizes it now or not.

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Leon

Then live with the fact that in some benighted (i.e., liberal) jurisdictions, she did NOT have the right to take a human life unless she was certain her life was in danger (and maybe not even then). She would not be allowed to presume an imminent threat to her life by the actions of the squint. Unless he said "I'm going to kill you," he could just as easily been inclined to merely rape her. She didn't know, hence she was guilty of at least manslaughter.

What's been overlooked in this sorry episode is that she was on the 'phone to 911 for 21 minutes. I can't imagine any urban jurisdiction where it would take the cops more than five minutes to respond to a "home invasion in progress" call.

I take that back. There have been several reports of UK ambulance drivers declining to respond to an emergency call because they were on break.

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HeyBub

On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 14:28:56 -0600, "HeyBub"

That sounds close to an incident at a Niagara Falls hopital. An 82 year old women fell down and broke her leg in the hospital parking lot. As security guard went into the hospital to ask for help and was told to call an ambulance.

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Dave

The bothersome thing to me is the BATF killing a woman who was armed with a deadly six-poop baby, in an effort to enforce one of those paperwork laws that Han loves so much.

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J. Clarke

"HeyBub" wrote in news:n4Gdne21F-uXlZvSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

I must admit that I'm not sure whether she or her baby was indeed under real imminent threat of being harmed, and I did live in Mass. when there was a case of a woman fleeing into her basement during a home invasion, and killing the guy who ccame down after her. She was acquitted, I believe, because there was no secondary exit through which she could have fled. Had there been another exit from the basement, she should have used that.

Not sure where she was in relation to emergency services, or how rural and diispersed the area is, but that seems indeed a bit strange. When I broke my arm on July 4th a few years back, police and ambulance were in my back yard in minutes.

There have been strange things like that in NY City as well, I think (emphasis), but they are not really tolerated, nor should they. On the other hand, an acquaintance spend almost 24 hrs in a corridor in the ER area of New York Hospital after a suspected heart attack (wasn't a heart attack, but he still smokes).

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Han

"J. Clarke" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@hamster.jcbsbsdomain.local:

What's BATF? What's a six-poop baby? I retired because I love paperwork so much that I refused to do anymore.

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Han

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Also known as the WACO (We Ain't Comin' Out) bandits.

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HeyBub

## Yes, in some jurisdictions you MUST retreat. Many states, however, have recently passed laws implementing the "Castle Doctrine," which presumes an intruder means grievous bodily harm. Killing said intruder is not only justifiable homicide, but NO civil liability can attach. That is you cannot be sued by the asshole's relatives. Some states have gone farther (like mine) and implemented a "Stand Your Ground" standard. That is, you may respond with deadly force wherever you have a lawful right to be: in your bedroom, in your car, on the sidewalk, at the mall, wherever.

Why would the police respond to a broken-leg / medical call? Did you inform the dispatcher that some stink-eye broke your leg and is roaming the neighborhood with a baseball bat?

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HeyBub

## Yes, in some jurisdictions you MUST retreat. Many states, however, have recently passed laws implementing the "Castle Doctrine," which presumes an intruder means grievous bodily harm. Killing said intruder is not only justifiable homicide, but NO civil liability can attach. That is you cannot be sued by the asshole's relatives. Some states have gone farther (like mine) and implemented a "Stand Your Ground" standard. That is, you may respond with deadly force wherever you have a lawful right to be: in your bedroom, in your car, on the sidewalk, at the mall, wherever.

Why would the police respond to a broken-leg / medical call? Did you inform the dispatcher that some stink-eye broke your leg and is roaming the neighborhood with a baseball bat? ==================================================================== The last time (only time) I broke my leg, the police were first on the scene. Of course, I was laying in the middle of an intersection.

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CW

"HeyBub" wrote in news:3KKdnUU4hemYrZvSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

Waco was a very bad job, but that bunch seemed quite nuts to me. YMMV. Anyway, to me it didn't seem necessary to kill them at that time.

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Han

What other time would have been better?

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Swingman

"CW" wrote in news:yO-dnTA8C9OJq5vSnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

It is usual here (Bergen county, NJ) that police (municipal in my case) get to the scene first, since they are patrolling on duty. Ambulance and fire are volunteers (doing a GREAT job!!), but with a longer response time.

I made a mistake cutting a low branch off a dogwood, and fell off a ladder, backwards. Very stupid, and very lucky it wasn't worse.

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Han

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