I did not see the thread at all until Swingman brought it to my
attention. Using Google I saw parts of it but not all of it.
Yeah, I bought one of those too. It is more powerful than the Domino.
I am not sure what has been said exactly but here is how my past week
has been which included the shopping and purchase of the 07 Tundra.
My wife took a weeks worth of vacation off and we went to Corpus
Christi for 3 days. I had been considering the purchase of a new truck to
replace my 97 Silverado. I always start off doing the research online
through Edmunds and KBB to learn the dealer invoice. 90% of the time the
dealer deals off of that pricing. I requested both to contact a dealer for
price quotes and to e-mail me with their current pricing programs. I am an
old GM guy and am slightly partial to GM over any other make but I am not
hell bent on buying GM. For reasons that I will not mention I have very
favorable reasons to buy GMC and a better reason to buy Chevrolet in
addition to the rebates and deals being offered.
Because of how Dodge and Ford have been reviewed lately I did not seriously
consider either. In the last year I have seen a new Ford F150 get torn a
new one by a Chevy S10 PU and the S10 had minor damage. The Ford was
missing the front wheel and brake rotor. Another F150 had severe quarter
panel flex as I watched it going down the street. That said, the new Fords
I narrowed down my serious contenders to the Honda Ridgeline, the New
Chevrolet LT1, the new GMC SLE1. and the new Tundra.
For my needs big and powerful is not needed. The Honda with a 247 hp V6,
LOADED was my over all favorite but that darn bed is 18" too short and about
12" too narrow. You cannot haul a piece of 60"x60" BBirch in it. Normal
sized plywood hangs past the dropped tailgate about 18". The truck handled
Price offered over the internet was $3000 off from Honda plus an additional
$3400 off from the dealer. All dealer add-on's if equipped are free. We
got a similar deal on our 2004 Accord 3 years ago.
The GMC was next and I can honestly say that the new suspension on the new
GMC and Chevy trucks makes them feel and handle like the 1997 models. For
me that is not good, I want that modern feeling. The truck feels enormous
and it is. The extended cabs seats were uncomfortable and could not be
adjusted to suite my wife. The back seats can be used as a 90 degree
reference. Not comfortable for any period of time. The back doors flex and
have considerable movement while going down the freeway on all models
including the Chevrolet.
The local dealer offered $26,500 + TTL. Not even in the ball park as far as
I was concerned.
A Chevy dealer held my wife and I captive. The truck was basically the same
price and equal to the GMC. I actually ran the thought in my mind to
strangle the salesman when he would not return my key and license. I did
however follow him to the "TOWER" where he was getting his figures and
offers from the GSM. I walked in and explained that they were going to
have to do much better in the next 5 minutes. I really did not want the
truck but if the price was right I would buy. They shot me another figure
and I fired back with $20000 drive out. They came down $6K to $20500.
Whew, I walked.
After all this I did not want to drive the bigger Toyota. The GM trucks
felt huge and cumbersome. the new Tundra would surely be worse. I really
was not even fond of the Tundra's looks having seen one at the Auto show
earlier this year and had not paid much attention to them. I did decide to
honor the test drive appointment and was pleasantly surprised. On Thursday
I ordered the V6 which had a couple more horses than my more than adequate
97 Silverado with 5.0 engine.
Saturday noon I get a call from the GMC GSM where I test drove the GMC. He
wanted to know what it would take to sell me a truck. I told him that we
had already ordered the Toyota and that it was very comfortable by
comparison. He asked me again what price it would take for me to cancel
the Tundra order and buy a GMC. I said make me your best offer and keep
in mind that it would take a lot to overcome the lack of comfort that we
would be settling for. His price dropped and including my trade in sight
unseen I could have the GMC SLE1 with the Texas option package for $18000
drive out and he would extend this same type discount to any model GMC he
had on the lot. I told him that I would come take another test drive.
The Toyota dealer is literally next door to the GMC dealer. I stopped there
first and told them about the GMC offer and asked them for their best deal.
We had previously only partially negotiated price and would finish that
process after the ordered vehicle had been built with no obligation to buy.
Because they had did not have a V6 in the configuration that I wanted I had
to step up to the V8. The drive out price with more options than the one I
had on order was $6400 under the "sticker drive out price" less my trade in.
Fortunately the big V8 and the smaller V6 EPA mileage rating differ by 1 mpg
in town and no difference on the highway. The v6 is rated at 236 hp and
the big V8 is rated at 381 hp with 401 #ft of torque.
We went to the GMC dealer and drove 4 more trucks and sadly never even
started talking price. Comfort and handling was first and foremost
We picked the Tundra up on Monday. As Charlie commented the big V8 has more
hp than 99 percent of the owners will ever need. Give the throttle a quick
1/2" push and the rear tires chirp. I suspect that full throttle would
smoke the tires. From the EPA mileage estimates the fuel savings is slight
to none over the V6 but the big V8 certainly is much more fun. Insurance
with the big V8 increased less than $100 per year for the 07 Tundra over the
The Tundra is wonderfully comfortable "for a truck" over anything that we
test drove. With the SR5 trim package and 6 or 7 other options we ended up
with more truck and more creature comforts.
I'll be glad to answer any questions from my 4 days experience with the
truck. ;~) I LIKE IT.