IU bought a Delta machine. It works well with hardwoods, but I did have a
bit of bit clogging on pine. Probably needs a little TLS to get it just
right. Overall, I'm satisfied but I've only done 32 mortises so far.
Better than drilling and hand chisels though.
Would you let your child LEARN to drive in a brand new car? Not me.
She can learn on a something that won't upset me when it gets broken.
That's also why I bought her a $39 HF benchtop drill press instead of
letting her break her teeth on my floor model.
Yes, they drove my car when learning (with me in it). Of course when they
used the car themselves they got the older one. I was a teenager once and
know how cars are used.
Using poorly made tools teaches frustration. My kids and now my grandson
use all of my tools and I taught them to use them properly.
Exception: I could not find some of my #$% sockets after my son used them.
I let my boys (6 and 8) use most of my hand tools, including a couple LN
saws and my tuned block and bench planes. One notable exception is that I
bought them a Stanley tool box saw as my full size rip and cross cut saws
were just too big. There are a few tools that they use but only for short
durations though as they are too big... see ABPW for an example.
When they realize poor results from using crappy tools they give up. When
they get results that look pretty much like mine they keep going. The one
type of tool where they really see the difference are the block and bench
planes... big curls is where it's at! They also notice it with hand
saws--that little Stanley I bought them cuts pretty good, see ABPW for an
That happens but at least I know where my pipe threader is - and my
portaband - and my 1/2" drill - and my four wheeler - and my tractor -
and my Ruger .22 - and my Walther .380 - Dang - Better check and see
if anything is left. :-)
We read different magazines. Delta and Jet are rated tops in one. IIRC, it
was WWJ. In an issure of Amercian Woodworker, SF, Woodtec, Delta, Jet were
all considered "bets buy".
What do your friends say that makes the Shop Fox better? Never used one so
I don't know the differences.
I scoped both out carefully a couple of years ago and, while the ShopFox
"looked" better in fit and finish, I settled on the Delta 14-651, which had
the best/beefiest head assembly (dovetail gib) of the benchtop models in
that price range ... this is a critical engineering point with the
benchtop's as they are good tools, but still borderline for doing the job.
The only thing I would trade it for would be the PowerMatic floor model.
On 16 Feb 2004 20:39:46 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Never Enough
Money) brought forth from the murky depths:
They're great, and they have a capacity for MUCH larger
lumber than the others. The head swivels to the side so
you can cut end or panel mortises, too.
Now that I'm done with the chiro (I think) I'll be getting
back into the shop and using it.
Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.
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It is available, but expensive. While a very good machine, at +/- $650US, it
is almost 3 times the price of the Delta 14-651. If I were looking to spend
that kind of money on a mortiser, I would spend a bit more and go for a
dedicated floor model.
Just my tuppence ...
One last note on the Delta ... there are two benchtop models last time I
looked, the Delta 14-651 is the better one.
Is that the PM20 and not a PM16 for +/-$650 that is cheap they are made
in England or France now I believe and I just paid 850eur ex tax (tax
19% )I chose to have it without the stand as I mounted it on a custom
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