I don't know where you live, but here (Edmonton, AB, Canada, population
about 1,000,000), I can look in the phone book and find a good dozen places
that sell tools and accessories, and most of their stuff would be less than
Sears. More knowledgeable staff, too. Even in the town I lived in before
(population < 100,000), there was at least 4 tool places that I could wander
in and around on a Saturday morning.
Your questions about whether Grizzly has fast shipping could be best
answered by going to the Grizzly website (which someone gave to you) and/or
phoning their 1-800 number.
But at some point, you're going to want to set the blades on a new jointer
anyway. So it's not like that money's wasted. You can also use the dial
indicator and base for setting up other tools, like saws, as well as
measuring run-out on things that spin around (routers, drill presses, etc),
preferably with the power off.
One of your first issues is going to Sears to buy tools and tool
accessories. For example, go to www.amazon.com, and type in "dial
indicator" as a search item. It will come up with a ton of options,
starting at $20 for both the indicator and magnetic base. I think the
Starrett was $150, though, so save your pennies. :)
Here's my other thought. I wouldn't pay anything for a new tool with the
"Craftsman" name on it. I know, it seems like they've got some decent
tablesaws now, and they've probably got some other gems in their pile of
stuff. And yes, it seems like some of the previously "good" brands turn out
more lemons now than they used to. But that's my personal opinion.
Having said that, the $50 you spent on the second-hand Craftsman didn't seem
like a bad investment, although I probably wouldn't have done it. $50 on an
old Jet or Delta, yeah, no problem. But not a Craftsman. Difficulty in
finding parts and consumables, lack of specific knowledge on the Internet,
etc would have dissuaded me. On the plus side, you probably can't lose too
much money on the purchase. If you get it up and running, you should be
able to re-coup any expenses (original purchase + reasonable parts) if you
decide you need to get rid of it later. Same can't be said for the new
jointer, I don't think. So I'd stick with the old one for now, plug away on
it for awhile, see if you can get it working.
Depending on how old your machine is, my guess is though it might not be hi-tech
or whatever, it's probably better built than a new one and has a lot more steel
You might consider your restore as gained knowledge that you'll have if you have
a problem with the machine later, as opposed to having to learn to
troubleshoot/fix the new one later...
I'd say keep the old one.
1) Why new knives? I was surprised at how reasonable they were to
sharpen when I ruined mine by running plywood edges through. Seems
like they charged $0.50 per inch, or $9 for a set of 6" knives.
2) A link belt is not very expensive. Not sure why you are using a
belt the wrong size.
3) Get a guard. How does it mount? Unless it is a unique design for
Sears, you should be able to find one that works.
4) Align the tables and you will be good to go, for a lot less money
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.
I am not sure how the guard mounts. Where can I find a replacement?
Here is a picture of a similar jointer.
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id 46 WHat do you think?
Problem with blades is mine look like someone has tried to regrind
them. I cant tell what the origional angle was supposed to be. Looks
like it maybe has two angles?
There's a cutlery place in our local mall that does knife sharpening.
They're about $1 per inch (from what the guy told me) but if you've got a
good set of knives it's well worth the price.
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
To me, it's not either/or. I'd get the new one, set it up, and run some
boards on it. Then I'd refurb the old one and see if I could make it
work just as well. Either way, I should end up with at least one good
jointer and maybe one to sell, and along the way I'll have learned all
about jointers for very low tuition.
If you want to joint today, get the new one. If you want to mess around
with a machine and see what happens, keep the old one. If you want
both, do both. If you only want to joint, get the new one and sell the
old one, or part it out, or turn it into a conceptual lawn sculpture.
One way I learn about any item-- not just tools-- is by trying an
ostenbsibly crummy one next to an ostensibly good one. Sometimes the
difference is negligible for my purposes. Sometimes it's night and day.
Either way, lesson learned.
1. You paid $50 for the old one (?)
2. It needs knives (and cutter head?)
3. It needs a guard
4. You indicate that the tables need some work
1. The old one *may* be built like a brick, errrr...house
1. How good is the new one for $239? (looks OK from photo)
2. Why was the price reduced by 40%? (Supplanted by a newer model,
What to do...
1. If you buy the new one and junk the old one, your total cost is
$289 and you save a bunch of time messing with the old one. You could
also fix the old one and sell it for more than you paid *IF* you get
it functional without spending major money.
2. If you decide to fix the old and not buy the new you are faced with
unknown costs and time and the possibility of still not having a
machine you are happy with.
Given the above, I'd buy the new and spend a bit of time trying to fix
the old. If time and/or costs got excessive - or if I ran into
unsuspected, major problems - I'd junk it. Given your obsession over
joining for lo these many weeks that is what I would suggest for you
even though you could use your router and make perfectly lovely
straight edges on boards.
stryped (in firstname.lastname@example.org)
| I just went on the sears website to see if I could find blades for
| this old jointer. I saw on clearance a jointer on clearance for
| 239. It was before 399.99. It can be shipped to the store for free.
| I wish I had known about this before I bought this old one. Should I
| keep going on trying to get this old one going with new knives,
| belt, etc or shoudl I cut my losses? Will I be as happu with this
| old jointer as the new one?
Older /might/ be /better/. If you'd waited long enough, you might have
found one sitting on someone's curb - though you might've had to wait
for a long time. I'd stick with the one you've got unless and until it
won't do the job.
Will you be happy? That's pretty much under _your_ control. As one of
my favorite songwriters said: "You can be happy if you've a mind to."
Deciding to be happy has a lot going for it.
DeSoto, Iowa USA
You will never be happy. Better just take all those woodworking tools to
the dump right now. Rumor has it that there are new saws coming out on the
market, painted different colors than the previous models. If you don't get
out now, you're just going to be a frustrated person.
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