I am just about to start a new job and will be ordering 3/4 quarter sawn maple for the drawer fronts and doors. I am looking for the relatively straight grain that qtr gives you vs the cathedral grain of flat sawn. It just has to do with what look you are after and your budget. I guess I am paying about $50 more per sheet to get the qtr and I am having to have it made up special. Plain sawn is stocked.
Neither is better than the other. Which do you want to use is the question.
I cut a bunch of softwood lumber into uniform pieces - about 3/4" x 1
3/4" - for use as frames for various utility type doors I needed to make for both my shop and house. I still have a bunch in the shop, all flat as pancakes.
For the shop doors I used hardboard as the panels. None warped. Humidity in the shop is high in the summer.
I used 1/4" (nominal) birch ply for the doors in the house. Made eight doors. All were nice and flat. Four warped. The humidity in the laundry is no higher than anywhere else.
I used the same 1/4" ply for some smallish (12" x 18" more or less) sliding doors for a utility cabinet also in the laundry. They just slide in grooves, grooves were made sloppy wide because I know from past experience that ply warps and if the grooves are a nice fit the doors will wind up binding so much they are hard to move. Initially, the butted edges of two doors were nicely lined up when closed. They no longer are.
I just looked in my shop to see if I had any of the ply used for the warped doors. I found a piece about 12" x 12" (door panels are about 12" x
36"). With one corner and two adjacent sides flat, the opposite corner is warped by about 3/8". Extend that warp (wind, actually) to 36" and it would be better than an inch. Here's a photo...
This problem mostly exists because of the way light reflects back off off and or out of the grain. Typically book matched pieces have the grain pointing in mirrored dirrections also. Actually you can often see regular hard woods change from light to dark and back again if you spin the wood
360 degrees and or walk around the piece. I have found that if you stain the pieces the light and dark is much less dramatic if noticeable at all. Clear unobstructive finishes that do not stain the wood tend to exagerate the light and dark patterns.
That depends. Quarter-sawn maple (sugar maple, in my experience) can have some _very_ nice looking ray fleck, and in my opinion it's worth the effort to seek it out if you have the lumber at your disposal.
That can be true, however if you have the time and patients to look through a quantity of quarter sawn plywood you will in deed find those pieces that have pretty impressive patterns. If you look at the foot board on the link below you will see the more exagerated quarter sawn pattern in the 1/2" plywood panels. The towers are also made with quarter sawn plywood but more closely resemble what you have come to expect, a rift sawn look.
Well, I can't see any figure on the forst pic, I guess maybe my monitor is not so great and the second pic kind of makes my point. It has a few nice flakes on the right panel but nothing I can see on the right and compared to the fantastic rays on the rails\stiles the ply look boring.
Yes those few lower panels have some nice figure. Not too common in my experience. For me, I usually order ply delivered and don't get to pick through the sheets and even though I can return stuff it isn't really fair to like order 10 sheets so I can find the one or two with good figure and return the others when the real expectation is that QS ply is going to be hit and miss in terms of figure.
Figure can be a very elusive thing. I have selected some great pieces of solid stock for projects only to plane away the great figure with the removal of just 1/32" off the surface. So I can image why it is difficult to get good slices for veenering ply.
One of my big hopes is to get my kit business up and running and start buying custom milled QS WO by the truck load. That is my nirvana!
Yes those few lower panels have some nice figure. Not too common in my experience. For me, I usually order ply delivered and don't get to pick through the sheets and even though I can return stuff it isn't really fair to like order 10 sheets so I can find the one or two with good figure and return the others when the real expectation is that QS ply is going to be hit and miss in terms of figure.
As one of the owners of a supplier I use put it, if I pull the order they get what every one else picks through. We don't just throw the that stuff away, if they don't care enough to pick it out themselves they must not care what it looks like.
Well for me, the bigger suppliers don't allow anyone in their warehouse. I do have a place I can go and look at anything I want but not as convenient and not so easy to look through stacks of ply that have to be pulled down from racks, etc.
Well for me, the bigger suppliers don't allow anyone in their warehouse. I do have a place I can go and look at anything I want but not as convenient and not so easy to look through stacks of ply that have to be pulled down from racks, etc.
I hear you, fortunately I only had to look through 1/4" stacks. ;~)
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