Dust collection/Cyclone lid

Keith · 2004-08-30T11:26:33+00:00

Like most other people I'm continually trying to find ways to improve thedust situation in my small shop. Right now I have a King dust collectorinstalled with 4" piping to the tools that does a pretty good job (similarto Delta/jet etc.). In their catalog, Lee Valley lists cyclone lids thatfit trash cans and from what they say I'm thinking it's an easier way to"take out the garbage" plus I wouldn't have to empty/clean the collectordust bags as often and it would mean an even more efficient system. On thenegative side it might mean more demand on the air suction to the collector.Here's what they say:"Capacity is a problem in every dust collection system, but particularly insmall shop systems. This cyclone lid will let you sidetrack up to 99% ofjointer/planer shavings and lesser amounts of fine dust (such as fromsanding) to a barrel or trashcan. It lets you convert a standard shop vacuuminto a high-capacity dust collector. In fact, if your shop vacuum draws 6amps or more, you can use it with our dust collection network to power acomplete collection system. If you have a lower-powered vacuum (less than 6amps), you can still use it with the cyclone on a single machine, such as aplaner."I would use this with my current system between the trash can cyclone andthe input to the collector...... Has anyone tried this and if so, what doyou think ??Keith P

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igor 21 years ago

Dr. Schnerd -- Don't want to prematurely rain on your parade, but there was at least one thread some time back with people expressing disappointment with the overhead guard from PS. I recall this because I had really wanted to buy one. I'd appreciate your posting here about your experience w/ it.

I bought a PS DC and it sucks. I also use the trash can w/ cyclone lid (see comments above in this thread, if interested). I have had switch problems. The first switch stopped working -- it would flip back and forth but not "engage" - regardless of the insertion of the kid-safety part. They replaced it, no problem. While that one works, the snap-in fitting was broken when it arrived - on my to-do list to get a third switch.

Now that I read your post again, not sure if the overhead guard is all you bought from PS or if you got everything there. -- Igor

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN 21 years ago

1) I'm a nurse; not a doctor. I save taxes that way. 2) Now you tell me. 3) Yep... bought it all from Penn State. I guess I'll just have to see how it goes.

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Pounds on Wood 21 years ago

The city will give us up to 4 for free. I only have 3, 2 for the yard, 1 for chips. They really only want to charge extra for the waste containers. And they are smaller too.

But no, you won't find my wife in the rose garden, or any garden for that matter. Too much risk of getting dirty. Anyway, roses come from the florist, right?

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igor 21 years ago

So I've heard.

Well, I think they do have a decent return policy! Anyway, be sure to run the boom through its paces early on. (Sometimes the stuff I buy sits and I then have to hope there is no problem because the warranty has lapsed by the time I actually use the thing.) And, if you have good news about it to report, I may well spring for one. You can be "Mikey" in the Life cereal ad.

As I indicated, my experience with their support people is good - of course, I would prefer not to know this. And, with a bit of luck, you won't have to find out. -- Igor.

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patriarch 21 years ago

"Pounds on Wood" wrote in news:p93Zc.30779$ snipped-for-privacy@cyclops.nntpserver.com:

I guess they do at your house. You sound like a wise man...

Patriarch, who helps his wife with the rose garden she was never promised....

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igor 21 years ago

BTW, one other thing that you may know already: Did you get sale prices on all the stuff you ordered? At the PS website if you go through the "standard" links to the items you ordered the sale prices are not shown. To see/get the sale prices you apparently have to get to the items via the "web specials" link. For example, the price of the boom TS guard is $200, but if you get to the item via the web specials page the price is currently $150. The sale links are also the ones that come in the e-mail if you are on the PS e-mail list. Again, you may know this but I thought it was worth a mention. -- Igor

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN 21 years ago

Yep... I figured that out before I clicked on "order". At least one thing went right today.

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Joe C 21 years ago

One item to add that I haven't seen in this thread.

I use the cyclone pre-separator lid and love it, no plastic bag and have only had to empty the dust collector bags once every 9-12 months.

However, when I put the bags back on, I use a 20" bicycle tire slit lengthwise on the flange (underneath both the bag and clamp. Virtually eliminates any dust leaks there, and all for a couple of bucks!

Joe C.

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Robert Galloway 21 years ago

Lid says Woodstock International WI049

Maybe my plastic bag is just waiting its chance. :-)

bob g.

igor wrote:

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Robert Galloway 21 years ago

Lid says Woodstock International WI049

Maybe my plastic bag is just waiting its chance. :-)

bob g.

igor wrote:

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Joe "Woody" Woodpecker 21 years ago

Does your DC cyclone lid separate aluminum cuttings from the wood already in the can. If you decide to cut some plastic, such as Lexan, on your table saw, will the lid separate the plastic from the wood already in the can so you can dump the wood dust in the garden and the plastic in the trash? Mine does.

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