I was watching a NYW video today and Norm was cutting the bench-dog
holes 4-degrees "inward" (toward the vise) so that his wooden dogs
weren't pushed enough toresultantly lose their grip on the work.
I am just curious since it caught me by surprise. Is it
standardprocedure to cut bench holes this way,or just with wooden dogs,
P.S. Don't tell my wife I was thinking about getting a dog, or she'll be
all over it!; )
Mine are drilled straight since they are round holes.
I use both Veritas dogs and pups which has an angle already in the hold
down, and I use home made stops for various things. The require straight
. I also use gramercy holdfasts, which work better with a straight hole.
If I had square dogs they would be at an angle... probably less than 4
It depends on the table top's thickness, also. The thicker the top, the mo
re vertical the hole can be. Tops less than 1 1/2" thick would likely requ
ire some angling, either the hole or the dog. If a bench is made with two
3/4" sheets of ply, another 6" wide strip, under neath, would make it thick
er along the line of holes.
The function of holdfasts, particularly, are dependant on hole size and thi
ckness of table..... as well as the holdfast's *angle.
On a side note: A few weeks back, I thought to try to make my own holdfast
s, so I did a little research about them. I wondered how I could properly
heat my rods, for bending, etc., without having a welder's torch.
Just so happens, this past weekend, I was given permission to go visit an o
ld abandon saw mill and was allowed to collect whatever relics I thought of
interest. I was specifically looking for a saw blade, for my shop's decor
. I picked up an old Buffalo forge. Looks in pretty bad shape, but I'll
see if I can get it operating, something maybe fun to mess with, rather tha
n fixing for long term use.
The mill was originally started by my aunt's husband and his brother (1920s
or so), so a token of that past family history is there. The place was al
l grown up with weeds, vines, shrubs, trees, etc. I spent about 4 hours wa
lking around, looking at all the old decaying buildings, about 10-12, and i
magined what all took place in each, like which one had the still in it, ju
dging from all the whiskey and wine bottles in one area, and, knowing my un
cle's family was Baptist, had a thought of (when the milling was slow), "He
y Bubba, lets go to the mill and saw some wood!"
It was a nice day's get-away.
On Monday, March 11, 2013 6:59:05 PM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
I made my own tapered dogs on the lathe. Tap them into the conventional hole
with the but of my hand and they stay put. Usually come right back out with tug
or a nudge to the side. Being wood, they are less likely to mar an edge.
Bill wrote the following on 3/11/2013 7:59 PM (ET):
I thought you were going to ask how to stop a dog from digging in the
I was a Metalsmith in the US Navy back in the late 1950s. I only dealt
with steel dogs.
The holes in the steel table were round and the steel dogs were bent,
sort of like the number "7". The dogs were inserted in the hole and onto
the work, then tapped down with a hammer to clamp the work.
The difference in wooden dogs rather than steels dogs is the hole is
angled rather than the dog itself.
pic of shop. Note the dogs on the rail below the tabletop and one in use
on the table.
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