True dat. It was the Chinese that produced junks. The Japanese were
better known for their tub boats, or taraibune, which are made from
cedar and bamboo.
Unless things have improved in the last year or so, Delta's support
leaves a lot to be desired. Examples include the fine folks who don't
realize they now also sell more than just yellow tools; "its normal to
have that much run out"; and "we don't really care if you buy our
products or not".
Given SC "background", I'd lean toward giving them a try.
$900 dollars for a table saw? Geeze, that's a lot.
When I finally sold my Ohio Forge (purchased "damaged" at Home Depot
some twenty-five or thirty year ago (Cracked cast table extension), I
looked around at HD, Sears nd Lowes and found they all were very
similar and all were "lighter" than the old Ohio Forge. I wound up
buying a Sear Close Out / customer return for about $275 as I recall.
I added one of those Link Belts after a few years and use it regularly
on wood and light metals and plastics/composites
They tell me my grandfather used to say "its a poor workman what
blames his tools."
Then Deming: I couldn't believe the first post. How can one get it so
turned around! Deming Tried to teach America but they wouldn't listen
until after his succes in Japan. Now, TQM is used throughout America -
lbeit absent the inspiration
False. Demming taught the Japanese how to do it. He brought
statistical process control, the basis for all aspects of lean
manufacturing, to the Japanese when the US auto manufacturers were not
interested. Prior to his indoctrination the Japanese were known for
Well it seems we have different goals for what we are looking for...
I don't think I was asking for judgement of the cost of my purchase...
did it seem that way?
There are much more expensive table saws out there too - so just because
you can get some POS on closeout, it doesn't mean I have to.
Note: I am not saying Craftsman are POS - just the fact that it was a
customer return / being closed out.
No... it certainly didn't. And there are many more expensive saws out there.
I bought my Delta Unisaw about 9 years ago and paid almost $2,800.00. If
either of the 2 saws you're considering were available back then, I'd not
have purchased the Unisaw. It was the popularity of the Delta Unisaw, General
and Powermatic industrial saws amongst serious woodworking hobbiests like you
and me (and many other people in this forum) that drove the development of
these "little brothers" to the industrial machines. And they perform
I don't think you're too much worried about drivel like that in poopi's post
(he seems prone to spewing crap). There will always be bottom feeders
slithering in the mud who try to lure others down to their level. Bit of a
shallow gene pool there...wot!
Come back after you've made your purchase and let us know what you decided.
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$900 is a lot? Let's see...you bought your saw 25ish years ago...for $275
which is about $620usd in 2007 dollars. In the grand scheme of things, not a
whole lot of difference.
Oh...and $900 today was only $400 in 1982.
Again, not a lot of difference.
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