I'm busy Googling as I type this but I thought I'd post here as well, given
that I'm likely to get some good advice through this forum.
I just got an awesome deal on a "floor model" cabinet saw. When it was
assembled the person stripped the protective plastic (and grease) cover but
neglected to protect the tabletop afterwards. As you can imagine, a
couple/few months on the showroom floor ensured that the iron tabletop
collected quite an array of smudges and handprints that are beginning to
manifest themselves as rust. (Hence the awesome deal....)
I set up the saw last night and then literally soaked the entire top with
WD-40 and let it sit overnight. After work today I used a random-orbit
sander with a nylon pad on it (green pot scrubber) and the top is now rust,
smudge, and fingerprint free, and a gleaming silver-grey.
I finished it off by spraying some WD-40 on a cloth and wiping the top down
(leaving behind a thin coat of WD-40)
Soooooooo.... I'm wondering what the experts here recommend for further
tabletop care.... I'm looking for advice on what I've done already (PLEASE
don't tell me that I screwed it up! LOL) as well as advice for daily care.
The owner's manual that came with the saw suggests paste wax, but I dunno if
that's the best idea out there.
I would imagine that anything good for tablesaw top care would apply equally
to my bandsaw and jointer.... Am I wrong?
I have used Boeshield on my old Sears contractor saw with great sucuss.
I too recently moved up to a cabinet saw and the owners manual suggest
applying talcum powder with an eraser. (I haven't been brave enough to
try it on the new Powermatic) Neither of these have wax to cause
finishing problems. I wonder if anyone uses talcum powder out there?
I use good old Johnson paste wax on my General. Works great and is cheap.
WD-40 is a waste of time. I think they all have to be renewed periodically.
There are some liquids made just for that purpose but they have a nasty
solvent in them that is given off when they dry.
I just purchased the Delta 14" a couple of months ago and noticed that
the table milling marks (which are poorly done to leave that rough of a
finish) were pulling/grabbing the stock as i was cutting (my first cuts
were complex curved cuts) so I started block sanding the table (solvent
with wet-or-dry sandpaper) a couple nights and wasn't getting very far
very fast. I was and still am getting this POS into usable form. Anyway
I had problems with the rust/maintainence issue with the C.I. table, I
tried the wax and still had rust trying to start up, since I really
only have one day a week to try to use my shop, I noticed two weeks ago
that this is silly after a fresh coat of wax and one week that it was
rusting again. So after many I-net searches and finding nothing pro or
con I decided to paint my table top. During the two times that I was
block sanding my table trying to smooth it out, I used up the last of
my Remington (the gun company) Rem-Lube (signifigantly better than
WD-40), now I needed to remove the latest coat of rust and needed a
solvent to wet sand with and all I had was Brite-Bore ( another
Remington Product), I mention this because the rust was gone before I
was even finished sanding in prep for primer, I didn't realize that it
would remove rust. Anyway, I used about 3 medium thick coats of
Dupli-Color grey primer/filler (lacquer base not enamel), wet sanded
with water and after drying put on 4 medium wet coats (2 at a time
within 3 hours) of Birchwood-Casey Tuff-Sheen clear poly-urethane
gunstock finish. I know this to be a very tough finish which is solvent
proof and very durable. I let that kick off for 30 hours and carefully
wet sanded again to remove/hide/fill the last bits of milling tool
marks and applied 2 more fully wet coats of Tuff-Sheen for a nice,
smooth rust free finish. Even though the paint hasn't fully cured, I've
made a few small cuts on some smaller stock and can tell the differance
Just so you know it will take about 4 to 6 weeks to fully cure and I'm
almost half way there but I can tell that it will be worth it so I dont
have to worry about rust or milling marks grabbing and pulling my wood
While I don't know of any reason why you can't paint the table top, I
shudder at the idea. How well will the paint hold up to wear? Will it
require more maintaince then a unpainted surface? It will probably work
well as a rust inhibitor, and will smooth the surface, but how durable is
it. Will the color match the rest of the shop? I know that paint will hold
up well on nonworking surfaces of cast iron, all the tools in my shop have
paint on the cast iron non working surfaces, but on a working surface I have
doubts. If the saw were new and had that rough of a surface I would have
called Delta and complained, but that may have gotten you nowhere with there
lack of customer care. Keep us posted I for one would like to know how well
Howdy Gary.... I use Johnson Paste wax on all of my tool tables. I put
it on a little heavy, let it dry fairly well then buff the daylights
out of it with a wool blanket piece... The wood glides like it's on
rollers. And like it's state above, when it gets a little tacky just
redo it with the wax.
I'm not keen on leaving the WD40 on the top. It could leave marks on
the wood that won't show up until you try and finish it...
Thanks everyone for the great advice.
For some reason I thought that wax would prevent the wood from absorbing a
finish but I obviously wasn't thinking that through.
I haven't managed to find Johnson's wax yet (still looking) and will look
into the spray-on solutions as well. (Someone told me that the spray on
products are nothing more than really, really expensive "Endust" .... Any
truth to this?)
Thanks again, everyone,
Gary (makin' sawdust, in Canada)
If you're in Canada, call the manufacturer of Johnson's Paste Wax toll free at
1-877-506-7352. Tell them you're looking for a local source and see what they
say. SC Johnson maintains a manufacturing presence in Canada, if I'm not
Forget the spray wax. Johnson's is nothing more than pure canauba wax in paste
form. One can will last a lifetime.
They don't sell Johnson's wax in Canada. They quite selling it some years
ago leading to the widespread rumor that they were no longer making it. Yes
they are but they don't sell it in Canada.
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote in message
Not sold in Canada? Dang!
How about this stuff:
Does it contain Bad Things like silicone?
I also found "natural" (non tinted) Minwax finishing wax... Is there a
reason that this would be a bad idea?
> They don't sell Johnson's wax in Canada.
I've quit using Johnson's wax and started using my own home brewed
"sheep dip" which appears to do a better job.
It is as follows:
8 oz, bees wax.
4 oz, turps.
4 oz, Boiled linseed oil.
Makes a nice wax for furniture and keeps the table saw top rust free.
Use a 1 lb coffee can in a pot of water to melt the wax.
When melted, add turps & BLO, stir and let cool.
When cool cover with plastic cap from the can.
Would appear that it doesn't have silicone. In any case, it should say on
the can. Generally though, silicone is added to waxes to make up for the
lack of real wax. I think Turtle wax started it with there liquid wax that
was supposed to be so easy to use. Sure it was easy. Didn't work worth crap
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