WTB 40kwatt floor-standing condensing boiler?

Hi Folks, The Subject says it all: I'm on the lookout for a floor-standing condensing boiler rated at 40Kwatts. I've googled on this newsgroup and haven't found much info. Any recommendations welcomed; thanks in advance

Mungo

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Mungo Henning
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There's the Keston C40, but that's wall mounted. Floor standing boilers are relatively hard to find these days. It's small enough to fit inside a 600mm kitchen cabinet, though (although you may need to chop out the floor panel). No compartment ventilation required. Flue length up to a whopping 45m, using drainpipe.

Christian.

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Christian McArdle

A Keston C40 can be fitted at low level. If you want a solid simple high output, high quality, floor mounted condensing design then get an Archie Kidd boiler (the first in the UK in the early 1980s)

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Doctor Evil

According the SEDBUK boiler database there is just one:

Lamborghini Calor SpA Futuria 24 MCW Top U/GB Gas-fired floor-standing balanced flue condensing boiler Production dates 1998 - (current model) Rated output 8.8 - 25.0kW SEDBUK certified seasonal efficiency: 90.0% Manufacturer: Lamborghini Calor SpA Via Statale 342 Dosso di S.Agostino Ferrara

44040 Italy 0039 0532 359811
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(Data from SEDBUK database issue 100: 25/02/2005)

It has the extra advantage that you tell your friends you've just a new Lamborghini!

I couldn't actually find it on their website: another firm who wastes their money on Flash graphics intro instead of decent info.

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Tony Bryer

In what way is a 25kW boiler a 40kW boiler?

;-)

Christian.

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Christian McArdle

My boiler database browser is a lovely piece of work but it is subject to GIGO not helped by a copy and paste without involving the brain!

This one is floor standing boiler and will deliver 40Kw but is not the sort of thing for the average kitchen from a couple of pictures on web sites (couldn't find it on the Remeha web site):

Remeha Gas 210 ECO 80 Gas-fired floor-standing condensing boiler Production dates 2000 - (current model) Rated output 8.0 - 80.0kW SEDBUK certified seasonal efficiency: 90.4% Manufacturer: Broag Remeha Broag Ltd Remeha House Molly Millars Lane Wokingham Berkshire RG41 2QP

0118 9783434
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(Data from SEDBUK database issue 100: 25/02/2005)

If they are really managing to modulate it down to 10% of full load I am impressed.

I think that using a suitable wall mounted boiler at low level is the way to go but the OP does need to ensure that there will be enough room for flue and pipework connections.

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Tony Bryer

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Dave Plowman (News)

If you're jumping up and down disco dancing in the lounge you warm yourself up, so you can rate the boiler at peak music power output :-)

Owain

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Owain

To follow up my own post the reason I couldn't find it is because the SEDBUK database (which comprises data supplied by the boiler manufacturers) quotes the wrong URL - it takes expensive marketing executives to do this. The right one

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Yes it's 1200 wide x 1200 high so not for the average kitchen but the electronic techies here would have great fun by being able to modulate it from 8-80kW by applying a varying voltage across 2 of the 56 terminals.

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Tony Bryer

Yes, but it's no good at all, Tony, is it?

How is he going to explain to a young lady that he just bought a new Broag rather than a new Lamborghini?

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Andy Hall

Who wants young ladies when you could connect your Broag to your Scalextric hand control and watch the flames go up and down

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Tony Bryer

Connect it to a strap-on volume sensor and you could have tantric sex heating control ;-)

Owain

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Owain

It might be achieved by having 2 burners? I have no idea of the cost.

The Keston C40 would be small enough to go on the wall near where the floor standing model went. I was surprised that it is compartment friendly as the Celsius 25 required a lot of ventilation.

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Ed Sirett

Alas this unit isn't suitable for use with a normal domestic gas installation. As it exceed then 70kW available form the normal domestic gas meter.

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Ed Sirett

Hi Folks, Thanks to all the respondents on this thread.

Can I revisit the question please and see if there is more scope for answers:

Okay, so scrap the idea of floor-standing boilers and allow either these or a wall-mounted boiler.

I'm still in the market for a 40kWatt unit (or so), but I want a condensing boiler and DEFINITELY NOT A COMBI (please forgive emphasis but no doubt a certain replier will attempt to hijack my plight as yet another route to proclaim the wonders of combi boilers ;-).

Our old boiler is about 15 years old or so and is rated at 23kwatts. The plumber bloke we have involved was aghast when I told him that I had added twelve radiators (of various sizes) to the existing system over the years. Without involving major upheaval, we need to boost the flagging boiler and pushing the power output up to 40kwatt ought to solve the problems. The present system has a lot of "thermal inertia" - fine when its up to temperature but a swine to get there in the cold mornings.

And yes I do have a programmable thermostat and all radiators (including the original ones) sport thermostatic radiator valves.

So, 40kw condensing boiler anyone - please?

Thanks in advance

Mungo

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mungoh

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From the latest version of QSEDBUK which should be on our website in a day or two (waiting for the monthly boiler database update):

Selected entries from SEDBUK boiler database (issue 100: 25/02/2005) Extracted by QSEDBUK 1.10 31 Mar 2005 8:35:02 p.m.

Make: Any Fuel: Gas Appliance type: Boiler Fixing position: Wall Flue type(s): BF/CF Output range 40 - 40 kW Other factors: Condensing only/current models only Listed by maximum output

Make/Model SEDBUK % kW min/max

Ideal Maximiser SE 42 90.4% 12.6-40.0 Worcester Greenstar R 40 HE Conventional 90.1% 40.0-40.0 Yorkpark Microstar 40 90.1% 20.0-40.0 Keston 130 90.0% 37.7-40.5 Boulter Buderus 800/43 90.3% 12.9-42.9 Clyde Combustions GB112-43 90.3% 12.9-42.9 Viessman Vitodens 200 WB2-44kW 90.2% 11.0-44.0 Keston C40 90.4% 11.3-44.9 Ideal Boilers Imax W45 90.4% 13.0-45.0 Férroli Econcept 50A 90.4% 13.6-45.2 MHS Strata 1 HE-45 90.4% 9.2-45.6 MHS Strata 1 HEI-38/45 Combi 90.2% 6.8-46.0 Sile SpA Condensa 50 N 90.3% 9.6-48.0 Sile SpA Condensa 50 N3V 90.5% 9.6-48.0 ATAG Verwarming Nederland bv ATAG Blauwe Engel SHR 51 L 90.1% 9.5-48.7 ATAG Verwarming Nederland bv ATAG Blauwe Engel SHR 51 TL 90.1% 9.5-48.7 ATAG Verwarming Nederland BV Solution 2000 S-HR51 90.0% 9.0-48.8 Yorkpark Microstar THR 50 88.1% 10.0-50.0 Geminox SA Carfield/Geminox THR 10-50 90.0% 9.5-50.5 Radiant Bruciatori SpA Radiant RK 50 90.3% 11.6-54.5 Clyde Combustions GB112-60 90.2% 21.4-55.1 Ideal Maximiser SE 65 90.2% 21.4-55.1 Keston C55 90.2% 13.9-55.2 ATAG Verwarming Nederland BV ATAG Blauwe Engel SHR 60 90.3% 9.5-57.2 ATAG Verwarming Nederland BV Solution 2000 S-HR60 90.3% 9.0-57.4 Boulter Buderus 800/60 90.2% 23.7-60.0 Ideal Boilers Imax W60 90.4% 13.0-60.0 Viessman Vitodens 200 WB2-66kW 90.1% 15.0-60.0 MHS Strata 1 HE 60 90.4% 12.0-60.4 MHS Strata 1 HE-75 90.4% 15.3-76.0 Ideal Boilers Imax W80 90.2% 20.0-80.0 Keston C 90 90.0% 11.3-89.8 Geminox SA Carfield/Geminox THR10-100 90.0% 9.5-101.0 Keston C 110 90.2% 12.5-110.4

Total: 34

QSEDBUK Copyright 2001,2005 Survey Design Associates Ltd UK

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Tony Bryer

I'll stick with the suggestion of a Keston C40. Around £1500 (incl.VAT). Also look to see if Vaillant do a system boiler version of the Ecomax range. The Keston has seperate boiler controls for heating and HW. If you use the weather compensation option you'll likely need to have a minor setup change in the boilerto get the heating flow hot enough.

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Ed Sirett

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