Wire width for a socket ring main

Oct 27, 2006 13 Replies

Hi,



I have a ring main in my kitchen for 7 double sockets. I want to add a spur from 2 of the existing sockets to generate 2 new double sockets which will be in a better position for my new fitted kitchen. My question is what width should the T&E be for the spurs?



Thank you,



James



"Width" seems an odd way of describing T&E, but....

The correct size of T&E for such a spur is 2.5sq mm. You are only allowed one double socket per spur (which sounds like what you are proposing).

It's in a kitchen so (I think) Part P applies, if that worries you.

Thank you,

Yes sorry not sure why width jumped > snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Slightly off topic.

Part of the definition of a kitchen for part P is that it is a room containing a sink. So would removing the sink before rewiring and replacing it afterwards let you out of the requirment for notification.? :-)

Slightly off topic.

Part of the definition of a kitchen for part P is that it is a room containing a sink. So would removing the sink before rewiring and replacing it afterwards let you out of the requirment for notification.? :-)

On 27 Oct 2006 06:27:28 -0700 someone who may be snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote this:-

The answer to your question is, it depends.

It depends on a whole host of factors which are listed in the Wiring Regulations and related documents. They can also be found by using a search engine on this group.

As a guide, assuming the original ring main was installed correctly it is likely that the size of cable used for that will be suitable for your two spurs. This may well be 2.5mm squared, but that can only be determined by looking at your kitchen.

My utility room contains the old kitchen sink. Would part P apply there?

(it was installed under building control before part P, but I may want to alter things.)

What are the other parts of the definition?

  1. For the purposes of this Schedule -

"kitchen" means a room or part of a room which contains a sink and food preparation facilities;

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Not unless there are also "food preparation facilities."

Actually Part P *applies* to *all* electrical work in a dwelling, what you mean is "is the work notifiable?"

Which means most kitchens cease being kitchens for the period between gutting the old one, and finishing the new one.

Now there's an interesting point...

There aren't, so it doesn't. Good.

True. For what I'm proposing it will anyway. whether it is notified is another matter.

I suopose I'll have to get access to a Robin (or similar tester) as I no longer have access to one at work.

I suppose I could get one on Ebay, and sell it on afterwards forabout the same as it costs. Cheaper than hiring.

Of course a tin plate and a Swiss army knife could be construed as "food preperation facilites" - that's what I use when I'm backpacking.

Problem with buying second hand is calibration. Recalibration can cost nearly as much as hiring.

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