wind’

The way around this is to consider the CO2 created with all imports, especially from heavy industry, and add these to a country's total.

Much the same with manufactures advertising goods that are net zero and all they have done is purchased some carbon credits without substantially changing their manufacturing processes. The EU were going to legislate against false green washing but now the plans seem to have been withdrawn. From EU documentation

It's coming, see "Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism".

For modelling to work correctly the input needs to be correct and the algorithms need to be provable. I'm not sure that this has been achieved trying to model something that is complex as climate.

With any model Good data in + proven algorithms = good data out Crap in = crap out Good data in + dodgy algorithms = dodgy data out

The PhD academics I know who are in or near that field are top notch and all are skeptical. The graduates I know from less prestigious places of study mostly are still in awe of Science and are Believers

That should wipe out any gains from renewable energy :)

That wasn't my question. Which was related to skills and understanding, and the need for both to understand climate science.

So you believe, based on evidence, that climate scientists such as those listed in the link above don't understand what they're looking at, and writing and talking about. They are informed by blind faith ('climate emergency', etc.) and any science they purport is made up. They have rudimentary skills and effectively no understanding. Is that what you mean by 'in awe'?

And your PhD academics, and others in this thread, do understand climate science, but it's not clear to me what knowledge they have above the very basic skills and knowledge of climate scientists. How for example does having a PhD help, if (as you appear to be saying) all that is needed is basic data and a calculator? Basic data and a calculator climate scientists seem to be unaware of.

You and others do seem to suggest elsewhere that you have strong evidence, that you can't reveal, that links most climate scientists to career chasing, greed, and fraud.

To me, this all looks like a conspiracy theory.

Did you actually think there were any?

If these climate scientists are unaware of such things, perhaps they should read the IPCC output, where these things appear.

Not the stuff for policy makers or the general public, of course, they are science-free zones.

Well, those who feed from the climate tit are hardly going to admit it, are they?

It’s been a conspiracy ever since the hockey stick appeared.

TBH its been a most convenient lie ever since Maggie used it as a reason to close down the last of the coal mines (that Labour hadn't closed already). Faced with a highly politicised anti -tory coal industry, and a nuclear industry that could not be extended at the current interest rates and a vibrant gas industry, it was another reason to get support from the Green-and-wet-behind-the-ears part of the electorate,

Then Germany saw a commercial opportunity as their Green party was agitating for nuclear closure, to make shitloads of money selling mediaeval windmills

And made Renewables Obligatory

At that point the full corporate profit industry after realizing the windmills and sunshades wouldn't actually remove the need for lots of fossil, swung behind the Great Green Boondoggle.

The gravy train rolled out of the station and everyine leapt aboard.

And the be couching of Man Made Cliamte Change was moved from a theory that could be disproved, to a metaphysical theory that could *not* .... Whatever happened, - and the climate has always changed anyway - it 'proved climate change' and it was an article of faith that it was man made.

A most convenient lie.

If you're not already familiar with it, have a look at this and see where Maggie fits in:

It may have formally begun with the Club of Rome's 'The Limits To Growth' in 1972, but the ideas were probably around earlier.

I'll snip that bit out because I am in total agreement with that.

Andy

Kathryn Porter discussing CfDs, Curtailment and upcoming "fun" for Millibrain ..

Is it just me, or does she always look like she's just discovered her mother's dressing-up box in her videos?

It probably hasn’t dawned on Millibrain that *anyone* could run a business where failure to cover costs through operating income together with lack of profit would be covered by the taxpayer.

Al Capone would have loved such a system,otherwise known as a racket.

It’s the message that counts!

I think that Our Kathy is not normally a social being at all. She has been very ill for some years and probably is trying to hide - inexpertly

- how worn she is. She is a bit of a bluestocking nerd. No fashion sense at all...

"8 years ago I started writing a blog as I took time off for health reasons."

I cant remember what is was...but debilitating enough to stop her working full time.

She is clearly a bit nervous about going on camera.

I however love her brain. It works, and she is clearly used to trying to explain complicated things to ordinary people and getting paid for doing it well.