Wiki: Pullcord switch noise

Mar 20, 2011 10 Replies

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NT


Pullcord switch noise



New '''Pullcord switches''' widely used in bathrooms have become noisy over the last few decades. In some cases they can wake the whole household up at night. Diyers trying to buy quiet ones are failing to find them.



==Sound reduction strategies== ===Current rating===



2A switches are less noisy than 10A ones.

===Mounting point=== When mounted to [[plasterboard]], the board acts as a sounding board, increasing the noise. Its quieter to [[screw]] the switch through to a timber joist, though there isn't always one in the right place.



===Tablelamp switch=== A 1A tablelamp pullcord switch can be fitted inside a standard pullcord switch enclosure, mounted on rubber tap washers. But these aren't as robust, abuse of the pullcord can break them.



===Rubber mount=== Mounting the switch enclosure to the ceiling with tapwashers helps a lot.



  • The traditional fixing consists of, in order: ceiling plasterboard, switch enclosure base, screw
  • A rubber mounted fixing consists of, in order: ceiling plasterboard, rubber tapwasher, switch enclosure base, rubber tapwasher, large metal washer, screw
  • See [[Fan_noise_reduction#Flexible_mounting]]

===Low level lighting=== Very low level [[lighting]] often avoids the need to use the main light, especially at night when the noise is worst. [[LED]] lighting is the obvious candidate, and the lowest power [[CFL]]s.



===Relay=== Standard mains wallswitch on 6v operating a relay.



===Switches outside the bathroom=== Pullcord switches are then unnecessary. Children can be a nuisance with them.



===Pullcord dimmer=== Luxury options can be silent, but expensive.



===Switch above ceiling=== Occasionally its possible to mount the switch to timber above the ceiling, and run the pullcord through a very small ceiling hole with a drilled disc on the plasterboard to tidy it up (and stop the cord damaging the plasterboard). Round the edges of the hole to avoid cord damage. This is doable where there's loft access above.



===PIR sensor=== Bathroom lights operated by a PIR sensor are sometimes suggested. In practice they result in complaints such as being dazzled by unwanted light at night, and lights going out when busy.


==See also== [[:Category:Bathrooms]] [[:Category:Electrical]] [[:Category:Lighting]] [[:Category:Noise]]


Just keep a gazunder by your bedside.

Or drink less in the evening.

Worth mentioning there are some quiet ones out there:

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IME they give a single light click when pulled rather than the loud MK style ClickClunk. No louder than a conventional light switch.

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Yebbut how quiet is "Quieter action than most ceiling swithches(sic)" in practice?

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These look like the sort that I've got (I reported here that I couldn't find a maker's name, but didn't have time to go so far as to remove one from the ceiling and look on the back).

_Very good_! I've had 'em for a good few years now: one little click On, one little click Off. (They control lights only, of course. As NT has in the wiki, heavier duty ones would be noisier.)

John

You've neglected to mention that ordinary wall switches can also be used

*inside* the bathroom, provided they're installed beyond the zones (i.e. >600 mm from bath or shower tray) and are generally suitable for the location.

Anything in a bathroom also needs to be suitable for the location, and I cant see a vanilla wall switch being ok with dripping condensation.

NT

This surely depends on ventilation though.

Neither bathroom in our old house, nor the one in this current house suffer from dripping condensation.

Largish room, bath, no shower, well ventilated, ought to keep condensation down to pretty low levels.

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