OK, ta. AEG, Bosch and Siemens are the ones of interest. The 8kg Siemens I looked at in JL has a 65 li drum but a 3-hour wash. I tend to do 'fluffies' (polystuff) on cotton 30 as the lack of spins between rinses on fluffywash offends me - and I put more in than the fluffywash takes, but not too much as polystuff needs a bit more space.