Veranda Planning Permission?

Depends on the size and if you already have anything eating into your "permitted development" allowance. Why not ask your local authority? You will need to conform to building regs anyway.

Building Regulations have a similar set of exemptions for this type of structure that can bypass official involvement.

The ODPM web site has details, as will the local authority.

.andy

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They are just starting a veranda on a house a few hundred yards away. It did require a full planning application. Since it is in our view we also got a letter from the council, with a brief description of the application, asking us to lodge any objections we might have (we didn't).

A veranda is just a small roof hung off the side of the outside wall with a few upright supports; it may even have just a decking floor. Or look at it as decking with a roof hung off the side of the house. Amazing, in that a conservatory which can be 30% of the house floor area and fully enclosed, have no planning or building control, when a veranda is open on all side and is rather much like an awning. Maybe an awning is the better approach if it is not to be fully made into an extension room.

Such a structure would almost certainly require planning permission and be subject to building control aswell.

when a veranda is open on all side and

I don't think so.

From the Building Regulations perspective, a conservatory, porch, covered yard, covered way or a carport open on at least two sides and no larger than 30m^2 is exempt as long as it's at ground level only and any gladd conforms to Part N of the Building Regs. There is also a requirement regarding separation from the rest of the house and control of heating arrangements.

Regarding planning permission, a conservatory is exempt if it plus any existing extensions have a volume of less than 10% of the original house volume or 50 cu.m for a terraced house, 15% or 70 cu.m for a semi detached or detached. whichever is greater, as long as it will not be nearer to the road boundary than the existing property.

It isn't hard to meet these requirements even with quite a large conservatory and not be required to seek "permission" or "control".

.andy

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Possibly, but carports, covered ways and covered areas are all grouped together for exemption anyway.

Take a look on "bruiser's" web site.

.andy

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I was! Agreed that if you have a conservatory that meets the requirements above then you may be exempt from building control approval but that was not what bthe OP had in mind. He was trying, I think, to build an extension by stealth and in stages. Others have tried and failed on this kind of scheme. Also a conservatory may exempt if it is erected by a FENSTRA (Spelling??) registered contractor.

Depends on the size.

FENSA. AIUI, FENSA is all about the replacement window business and specifically the insulation requirements of Part L1.

Have a look at

Looking at the Approved Doc. to Part N, it appears that only Part N1 applies to dwellings and is about protection against impact etc. I can't find any reference in this section to any requirement to have the installation done by a FENSA member to secure exemption. It would appear to have more to do with the manufacturing standards used.

It would also be a nonsense to say that a conservatory is exempt as long as part N is complied with, if to do so automatically means a Building Notice is required.

I can't find any references to conservatories on FENSA's web site, although obviously some conservatory companies will be since they do replacement windows as well.

Yep.

.andy

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thx to all.

Be careful. By creating an extension like this, you will still have to prove that the foundations, floor insulation etc. are all up to scratch. Even if they comply at initial construction, they will have to comply with whatever new regulations they dream up when the walls are built. They might also want the whole lot dug up to prove it. Better to build it as an extension from scratch.

The building regulations are mostly common sense and mean it won't all fall down, or burn too much of your precious gas. There is no harm in complying with them, rather than attempting to circumvent.

Christian.