Planning permission for house for family

Are there special planning permission rules applying where one wants to build a house for a fmaily member (child) on one's own land? We have a small-holding in an area where adding new houses is basically not allowed but a few people have added houses for family members and/or workers.

We are thinking about (well, our child is thinking about) building a house adjacent to ours, space isn't an issue, we have around 9 acres and some is fairly lightly used at the moment. We are on a private road, services (water, electricity, drainage) are close.

So, can one get permission to build a house for family where one maybe couldn't get permission for just 'a house'?

Reply to
Chris Green
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If you want to build a "granny" annex PP might be easier

tim

Reply to
tim...

You can get special permission for an agricultural workers' dwelling, but you have to demonstrate a suitable need.

I get the feeling that councils are very wary, because after a few years people try to wriggle out of them, and revert it to a "normal" house with no strings attached, so I wouldn't see it as an easy way to get permission you wouldn't ordinarily get.

Reply to
Andy Burns

Depends very much on the local plan. I know the local plan around here seems OK for what they call Granny Flats in the same plot, but of course if somebody sold off their garden and a developer wanted to build it would not be allowed Sadly the Government are changing the rules so that any old thing can get permission on appeal it seems, but that no doubt is the typical knee jerk reaction to the housing shortage which the population will have to live with. A lot of the problem is density and infrastructure, ie where to put cars and where are the roads, schools etc. I see a lot of single houses going up here, but if you are mostly rural there could be other rules. All roads lead to the local council officers I suggest. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

Yes, thanks, I think a couple of the local cases where a house has been added have been for "agricultural workers". I was just wondering if there was also a 'family member' possibility, probably not.

Reply to
Chris Green

In Cornwall, and probably other rural holiday areas as well, it's not uncommon for a farmer to apply for PP to convert a disused or even derelict barn into holiday accommodation, to make a bit of money on the side and generally contribute to the local economy through tourism. Holiday accommodation usually means occupancy for no more than ten months of the year, sometimes with additional constraints on the period of occupancy by any one tenant.

After a few years, the farmer may then try to have the status of the property upgraded to full residential, knowing that if he gets it, he can make a tidy profit by selling it off. But the council are generally wise to that sort of thing and don't look kindly on it.

Reply to
Chris Hogg

Under "Class Q" there's a standing presumption to convert disused farm buildings direct to residential (subject to the rules).

Reply to
Andy Burns

In Wales I saw a lot of 'agricultural buildings' that looked suspiciciously like detached bungalows without window frames.

After a few years they moved the cows out, put in windows, and sold at a profit.

Owain

Reply to
spuorgelgoog

You may be able to get permission for an extension or an annexe provided it is "incidental to the enjoyment of the main dwelling house", i.e. not a se parate dwelling, or if it falls within permitted development you will not n eed permission. You will need permission for a new separate dwelling.

Also, you may be able to have a non-permanent structure without permission (or it may be easier to get permission for).

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and lots of others.

Owain

Reply to
spuorgelgoog

It being assumed that its hard to build a house on someone elses..

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

developers often apply for PP on someone else's land.

Reply to
charles

Nice loophole - I'm building a house for my child - but once it's finished I'll sell it!

Reply to
alan_m

In the Horsham area, there seems to be a rash of 'caravans' being installed without planning persmission after one land owner won an appeal.

All the 'planning consultants' are piling in.

Not just 'travellers' either.

See Horsham District Council DC/18/1494

Reply to
Andrew

No longer true. One of the checks carried out now by the LA is to confirm ownership of the land.

Reply to
Andrew

Indeed BUT they dont BUILD on it

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I had a developer, two months ago, wanting to apply for PP on my land. he would buty if successful. The LA might check to see I I knew about it, but PP can be applied for by anyone.

Reply to
charles

I would expect there to be a local plan which details what is allowed. You can always contact local planning office. Parish councillors will likely know about local rules. You chances of getting planning permission are somewhat reduced if you are in an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty or Green Belt.

Reply to
Michael Chare

No but if they get PP they can then cone and offer you a shed load of dosh for it.

Reply to
bert

You've had most of the answers already. If you are a farmer and your child is taking over the farm you might get permission to build a house, but it will carry an 'agricultural tie'.

If your local authority does not have a five-year housing supply in its local plan and you can show development on the site is 'sustainable' the planning authority may give in rather than risk an appeal.

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Reply to
DJC

ISTR that when we bought our current place (green belt) it was possible to build a granny annex etc but one would not be permitted to ever sell it as a separate entity.

Reply to
John Rumm

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