I'd like to enclose the alcove area of the house just outside the front door.
Basically a door in the middle with two side panels about the same width as the
door each side. About 80% of the semi's in the street have this done.
Do I need planning permission to do it if,
a) I DIY it in wood frames
b) If it's a double glazed version
If I do need PP, what is it likely to cost? (I've never done anything needing PP
You probably do not need Planning Permission unless you are in a Listed
Building / Conservation Area / World Heritage Site etc.
You almost certainly will need Building Regulations approval. It
probably won't come within the 'conservatory' exemptions so hopefully
the BCO will not expect you to bring the porch up to the standards of a
You will definately need Building Regs approval if you DIY it, for the
glazing. Even if you use a FENSA contractor, you may still need B.Regs
approval because self-certification applies to the glazing, not to the
enclosure of the porch.
Charges vary, see your local council website
Some houses have a tiled pitched roof off the wall over the front door. Some
of these run the whole, or half the length of the house, and where they run
over the windows it is more like a very long canopy. I have noticed these
appear simple to erect being a long canopy bolted to the outside of the
house. Just a triangular wooden frame. The tiling and flashing are the
only complicated bit. For something which is quite simple to erect they
really do make a house look much better in most cases.
If not in a conservation area, would these need planning permission?
You might be able to get it under permitted development rights. This will
depend on the exact design and layout of the property and whether or not
your permitted development rights have been exhausted or withdrawn for any
reason. Your planning department can advise.
I can't imagine anyone round here asking permission for a porch - they
just get on with it. Though I got permission for my conservatory I know
damned well most people don't. You've only got to look at some of them
to see they'd never have got it if they tried.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Again, a conservatory may come under permitted development.
I have built a conservatory (wooden, of course!), a large shed and a full
rear dormer loft conversion without any planning permission. (Technically,
with permitted development rights which are form of planning permission that
requires no application to the council). I barely have a single m3 of volume
left of my rights!
AFAICT, it will count towards your cubic meterage when considering
applications under PDR Class A+B, but is permitted even if you have already
reached it. Hence, if you are in a tight situation, do the
extension/loft/conservatory first and the porch second.
It certainly counts under PDR, though. In particular, it is PDR Class D.
D. The erection or construction of a porch outside any external door
of a dwellinghouse.
Development not permitted
D.1 Development is not permitted by Class D if-
(a) the ground area (measured externally) of the structure would exceed 3
(b) any part of the structure would be more than 3 metres above ground
(c) any part of the structure would be within 2 metres of any boundary of
the curtilage of the dwellinghouse with a highway.
Alternatively, if you remove the existing external door, I think it might
come under Class A.
But in this particular case the OP is not erecting or constructing a
porch. The porch is already there, enclosed by walls and a roof, all an
integral part of the original building structure, and its nature (of a
porch) is not being changed by the alteration.
> Alternatively, if you remove the existing external door, I think it
> might come under Class A.
Well, that would be extending the habitable accommodation into a
previously nonhabitable area, similar to a loft conversion with no dormer.
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