Using a blowtorch to melt out a door lock

I've just read the second recent article in the local paper about break-ins using a blow torch. Googling with my subject line brings up dozens of examples.
Is this the burglar's response to bump-proof eurolocks?
Nick
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On Friday, 14 September 2018 14:48:28 UTC+1, Nick Odell wrote:

uPVC windows and doors. They use a blowlamp to soften the plastic....Silent!
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On 14/09/2018 16:47, harry wrote:

But surely these things are actually located within the extruded aluminium internals?
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No, there's generally no such thing.
Aluminium extrusion is only fitted if the frame has to be load bearing, and that's unusual because usually there's a separate lintel and the window/door isn't load bearing. It wouldn't be fitted in the opener in any case.
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On 15/09/18 09:53, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Some of the news items brought up by the search show two different techniques: melting the plastic around the lock and melting a gert big hole in the plastic panel below and to the side of the lock - then reaching up and turning the key conveniently left in place.
Nick
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:48:25 +0100, Nick Odell wrote:

Would that work with multi-point locks ?
Also ... it strikes me that the sorts of properties that such scrotes would target would also have a decent alarm system including a smoke detector ? Surely the fumes of burning plastic would have tripped it/ them ?
That said, once the principle is established (cutting the lock out) maybe a decent circular saw and bit of skill could easily remove a door ?
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Jethro_uk wrote:

If it gives them access to where the lock activates the multi-point mechanism/gearbox
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 16:56:31 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Isn't that why deadlocks were invented ?
Also, just opening the door is of little value if you immediately trip an alarm as you blunder through ?
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On 14/09/2018 17:19, Jethro_uk wrote:

1. The alarm is tripped.
2. A minute or two later a guy from the monitoring station rings up to check it's not a false alarm. He waits on the phone for at least 30 seconds.
3. A minute or two after that, the police have the details from the monitoring station.
4. If it's high enough priority, a minute or two after that, a police car is on its way.
So, the scrotes have a good 5 minutes after the alarm is activated to grab what they can and leave. If they leave on a motor scooter, some police forces still have the policy of not pursuing them.
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Makes more sense to have remote access to the cameras in the house now and it will be obvious that he's wrecked the door to get in.

Not hard to ensure that they can't grab anything that matters in 5 minutes.

Cant take much that isnt easy to secure, away on a motor scooter. And the cameras have the full details of the scooter anyway.
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In Glasgow we prefer the old fashioned method...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRzk6ArKj18

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Sounds a bit smelly and rather obvious to me. Surely somebody will sort of notice? Besides what about the multipoint locking doors? Brian
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Yep. In spades when wearing a hoody and a balaclava when doing that.

Doesn’t survive the melting of the lock itself.

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If going equipped is still an arrest offence a lot of people might be arrested who are decorators or some other kind of tradesman.
I think it is impossible to protect things well enough to stop the determined thief if they think it worth while. The main petty criminal stealing for a drug habit will take the easy option though. For those premises where there really is nick stuff then let them in with the minimum of damage to your property and use hidden cameras and silent alarms to try to make sure they get caught. Police won't do anything much these days unless you have pictures and almost give them the address of the crim. There was a case recently where the idiot criminal made a phone call on his mobile from within the crime scene and there was sound and video being recorded. I don't think a lot of them are that smart. Brian
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It is.

Nope, Adam has only been arrested for being drunk and disorderly, so far.

But its perfectly possible to make it hard enough so that the large footed fellas show up before they get what they want.

Yep, fuck over those who havent secured anything.

And cant get out while the large footed fellas are showing up.

They do when they can see the druggys trying to get in.

And it doesn’t cost much to have that sort of system now.

Yep, if they were, they wouldn’t be druggys.

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