Use of connector strips query

I've browsed the group for a while, and am looking for advice on the use (or misuse) of connector strips in domestic lighting. We recently had a flat rewired and various types of LV lighting put in throughout. In most cases the electrician used junction boxes to wire the prewrired transformers onto the lighting circuits, with those being fed from about 25 dimmers in several DIN boxes located mostly in the loft. Generally the guys would make a hole in the ceiling, wire the JB, and then feed the JB, transformer and finally the fitting into the ceiling. However, some fittings are small and a JB wouldn't go through the hole, and access wasn't necessarily possible from above. In this case they used 3 poles from a suitably rated connector strip, wrapped the strip in tape for insulation, and finally fed everything through the hole as before. Although fine for insulation, does this contravene the regs, and if so, how should one wire this to comply given the access restrictions from above/below?

Also, with regards to access of junction boxes. In this property, almost all JB's are accessible via the loft, but a few are beneath a floor above. Of those, some can be popped down if the light fitting is removed, but if this isn't possible, is it mandatory that permanent access be provided somehow from above? This would require a hatch somewhere, but wouldn't be great in some types of flooring, and could be impossible if the floor above was tiled, had underfloor heating etc. Longer cable runs to JB's that are located at an accessible point should be possible in that case (but maybe not always), but with even more complicated and obscure wiring as a result. Using a connector strip would then seem the better solution as bringing a light down from the ceiling would be possible, albeit not ideal, and would give more logical and straightforward wiring.

Advice, ideas and rules and regs welcome.

Reply to
jcharles7272
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Presuming, for a moment, that the wiring you're talking about is normal low voltage - that is, 230VAC, then connector strip isn't illegal, just dodgy, if it's only wrapped up in insulation tape.

If you're talking about the Extra low voltage - e.g. 12V secondary side of the transformers, then only ceramic connectors should be used, because of the heat.

You can easily obtain small inline connector boxes, which essentially are plastic or heat resistant connecting block within an inline case. These are generally only an inch and a bit across by about two inches long - sorry, about twenty mil wide by about fifty mil long. Far neater, much safer.

Insulating tape doesn't have many heat resisting properties. Nor does plastic strip connector.

Other than that, feeding the connector through the fitting aperture in the ceiling is OK, so long as it is connected safely, for heat AND power.

Nope - see above.

Generally, it is a question of cable size and rating.

Bear in mind that on the primary side, the current is lower although the voltage is higher - the reverse is true on the secondary.

It isn't uncommon to run ULV lighting in 4mm T&E on the secondary, back to a central JB, making off the fitting in ceramic blocks at the fitting end.

Yes, so long as it is the correct connector for the job.

Reply to
Sugar Free

Don't ask me about regs - there are plenty of folk here far more qualified to answer you than me - but I can tell you that dinky little junction boxes are available which are ideal for the purpose. See:

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are smaller in diameter than most, if not all, 12V downlighters, and will pass through the hole in the plasterboard. They don't seem to be particularly well known. Neither Screwfix nor Toolstation stock them.

David

Reply to
Lobster

Thanks David. Some of those are used, and you're right about them, but we have some some lights with even smaller holes, and no JB's would fit for those. Over 2K spent at Mr Resistor bought some good (and some less good) lighting, but lots of hastle one way and another as well.

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Jonathan

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