(Totally OT question): The effects of extreme cold....hypothermia etc

Oct 31, 2014 54 Replies

It's very difficult to lose 17C. And you can shiver indefinitely as long as you don't starve (it does burn a lot of calories, and I've found it an easy way to lose weight fast - you can either just be cold, or even better be cold while exercising, then you lose weight twofold).

It depends on how good your circulation is I guess. I have no problems with cold fingers or toes.

In Uncle Peter's case, I'd imagine it would be his d*****ad.

That sentence is very mixed up. What temperature is the room, how long are you in it, and what are you wearing?

Anyway, by 2 degrees, I meant a 2 degree drop in body temperature, I wasn't referring to ambient temperature.

You do know what warm blooded means don't you?

It's true. It's a scientific fact that you die at around 20C body temperature. And they have actually found people (including a baby) with a lower temperature than that and still alive.

I don't.

I've been in the cold plenty times, and if not active I just shiver. No big deal.

It's what shivering is for, it uses your muscles to generate heat, just as though you were running.

Wrong. Your muscles will shiver as much strength as they have, you can't chop firewood with more power than your muscles have.

Wrong. I always thought as a kid that all this "wrap up warm" was a load of nonsense, so I tried stuff like snowball fights with no gloves, then going cycling in winter in the snow with no shirt, and swimming in icy lakes. I disproved the bullshit that everyone just believes and passes on like utter ignorant morons.

Absolutely impossible, that area has the best blood flow of all your body parts.

Then they clearly weren't fit.

Wimps.

Then they clearly weren't fit.

Wimps.

Wimps, I'm glad they're out of the gene pool. Anyway, they always say people die of "hypothermia" or "old age", when what it really means is they can't be bothered finding the true cause of death.

As I said before, that's a generic term when the doctors can't be bothered working out why they really died. For example someone in icy water died, they must have been cold. Er.... maybe they drowned? Starved to death? Dehydrated?

Not bullshit. I never wear shoes when out walking. I want to feel the scenery, not just see it.

Why is hypothermia even a word in Australia anyway? It's hot over there, you don't even get snow!

Which part?

Not if you have decent circulation.

Despite the probability of feeding a couple of trolls, I have to say that it snowed when we were on a November trip to the Blue Mountains.

It's a misconception that snow doesn't fall in Australia. The climate varies a lot depending what part.

Snow

"In Australia, snow falls frequently on the highlands near the east coast, in the states of Victoria, New South Wales and Tasmania and in the Australian Capital Territory. There is a regular snow season in several areas which have seasonal ski tourism industries. Snow also falls with some regularity as far north as Stanthorpe, Queensland and in isolated parts of South Australia and Western Australia"

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It doesn't bother the New Zealanders.

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You have three ways to keep warm without moving. Four if you have a friend with you.

Do they? Or do people just say they died of cold without looking into the real reason? Like saying someone "died of old age". You can't - there's always a specific reason, like heart failure.

Well I don't, so like I said, I have good circulation.

Wimps.

You're as infamous as me in here.

PKB.

I wouldn't freeze to death in one either.

You think people don't believe you're a troll? It's been mentioned a couple of times in the last few days.

It could be complete rubbish but I've been out in Poland when it was -17 bu t very dry, sunny and no wind. I ended up having to undo my coat whilst I w as walking to the office. May be our perception of how cold something is is affected by the wet windy weather we get in the UK.

Humidity and wind have huge impacts. Add a bit of direct IR from a bright sun...

Our perception is affected by how wimpy we are. People confuse comfort with necessity. Just look at things like "essential selection of music" on adverts.

It beats me why people think you can't survive all night at a certain temperature, when you're fine in it for an hour. You'll have reached a temperature equilibrium by then.

I never said anything about moving. I was comparing sitting still for an hour to sitting still all night.

Alledgedly. People also alledgedly die of old age.

Well I have no harm come to me, my hands and feet work perfectly, and I'm always going off in the cold.

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